NoodleNut

Hi! I also started a thread asking about chicken frames ... you might like to have a read if you haven't already .. http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?show...=chicken+frames or just look under Health/Nutrition/Grooming for my thread "Chicken Frames"

I haven't heard that one .... I give them to her frozen because; a. It slows down her eating b. in this hot weather it keeps them fresher c. I always did that when she was getting her new teeth as a pup (also gave her chicken necks to slow her eating down .. until she swallowed one whole!! NO MORE CHICKEN NECKS!! SCARED THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS OUT OF ME WITH HER CHOKING ON IT!! See what other DOLers have to say about the frozen idea ... I will be interested int he comments myself.

Yuck smelly doggie breath ..... ewwwwww! :shakehead: Thanks one and all ..... I agree with the comments that it is a load of rot. Yes, there is the occassional case of a dog being malnorished from only eating chicken bones .. I am into a balanced diet with the kibble and the raw fruit and veg and it is working for me. There is risks in everything really. I prefer her to have nice white teeth than to have calc all over them and have to have her undergo an anaesthetic to get it all off! Yucko let alone $$$$ My sister's toy poodle has had theat done. Looks like my mums CKC is going to head along the same route .. apparently the pet shop person has more knowledge than me who reads copious books and asks questions to knowledgable others and my breeder. Bet the pet shop owner wouldn't even know what breed my dog was if I walked through the door! I did soooo much research over 4 months before buying Noodle and then spent 6 onths visiting the breeder before Noodle was even conceived .. I am sure I was a breeder's worst nightmare ... BUT... I now what I have in my furry family member :rolleyes: Went to vet this morning (immunisation due and to get more heart guard tablets) and the vet was most impressed with her (physically and temperamentally ... big sook .. she didn't like the second jab though ... wimpered .. poor sweet ). The vet is fine with me giving her chicken frames and said there is the occassional dog that gets a bone stuck in their throat etc but it is VERY rare. I think mum is also scar'd from the fact that our family dog got a perforated bowel from cooked bones my grandmother gave him when we were away one time .... we were most unimpressed .. grandma ignored our instructions NOT to give him cooked bone and she did saying her dogs used to have them ... $$$ later and major surgery he was fine but it was touch and go. Thanks again everyone! Hopefully we wont have problems with Noodle and chicken bones.

Coat is now 'coped with' by the purchase of a coat .. got it this evening. I know everyone is going to laugh at training BUT they don't have to spend 3 hours or so washing and then picking out bits of leaf matter and twigs out of her coat!! At the moment Noodle is 'drip drying' in her pen after baths .. great weather for bathing a Puli. Noodle's cords are not mature (she is only 14 onths old) so still has some frizzy bits which are like velcro to any plant matter or bark chips!

Hi Gretel .....Yes, I can well imagine she might have sold mum some food .. never thought to ask that question.... mum believed her though about th chicken frames ... made me very annoyed becasue I had never heard such a thing. Mum is at least giving her pup apples though at my suggestion .. my Noo ADORES her apple which she shares with our ten year old and my hubby ... very funny to watch.

Hi All, I was speaking to my mother yesterday (they have a CKC pup) in Adelaide and she was told by a owner of a petshop (I grimace already at the mear mention of a petshop .. I did manage to convince her to buy their pup from a breeder though ) that they should not feed their dog chicken frames as the bone builds up in the dogs body. I have NEVER heard of this before so thought I had better check out all DOLers perspectives. The petshop owner said it shortens the life of the dog because of the build up of bone in the dog's system. What the?? Noodle was in kenel for a couple of weeks while we were interstate and was fed Eagle Pack while we were away and still managed to get some tartar build up on her teeth. Since being home she has had a chicken frame nearly every day (frozen) and then her dry food at night (combination of Advance, Eagle Pack and Pro Plan) as well as her one cut up apple and a carrot every second day. Noodles' teeth are as white as the driven snow now! So should I not be giving her chicken frames? My gut instinct is that this advice is a load of baloney but ... thought I had better ask ...... Here is a photo of my gorgeous Noodle ... any opportunity to brag LOL

Here is my Fluppies coat!! Woohoo .. this should cut the grooming down by half on training days! Woohoo. it is made of a stretch cotton (less chance of getting bits sticking to it and being damaged. Noodle also has the same in a lycra for the beach ... should stop at least some sand from getting all over her in the cooler months.

I think I found it!!!! Woohooo ... not cheap ... I have contacted them and awaiting some further information about shipping costs, sizing and durability of the Hurtta waterproof Pro overalls and the Hurtta Waterproof Sport Overalls. I so hope this might be the answer after spending another 3 hours yesterday washing and picking bits out of my Puli's coat after training .... can't keep this up. http://www.camddwrcanine.co.uk/xcart/produ...at=0&page=1 http://www.camddwrcanine.co.uk/xcart/produ...at=0&page=1 http://www.camddwrcanine.co.uk/xcart/manuf...nufacturerid=15

Hi Squeak,... yes it is Fluppies that I have ordered from actually (Nadine is a great help).... I have ordered two, one in the lycra and one in a jersey ... they also have good coverage. I just also like the waterproof and breathability of the Hurtta overalls and wondered if there was anything similar here in Australia or where you can get the Hurtta coats from/others experiences with them. Hopefully wont have to do as much grooming after training with one of the Fluppies on.

Hi, I am posting here (under grooming), the Puli site and the General Dog Site in the hope of some responses. Hope that is not against the rules but I figured only Puli people will go into that list ... Noodle is attending obedience classes and coming home covered in leaf litter and sticks ..... Here is her picture so it will give you some idea of what I have to deal with EVERY weekend after training ... 1 hours of training + 4hours of grooming to pick all the bits out. Yes, this is a hazard with a Hungarian Puli but I wouldn't swap her for the world .... gorgous girl. I found this dog coat online and would love to know if anyone out there has a coat the same or similar that they use to keep their long haired breeds clean. http://www.hurttacollection.com/products?a...p;product_id=75 The coat fulfils every criteria I want in a coat; covers the the legs (the plant matter sticks like VELCRO!), covers the tummy, light, hardier than just a lycra or fabric coat, waterproof and breathable and big enought to be able to vbe still active. Would also be great down at the beach to prevent sand and seaweed What have any of you go by way of coats and fulfilling this 'criteria' I have ordered two lycra suits fo Noodle but I fear they wont have the durability that a suit like this one would have.

Good suggestions Willow .. this is exactly what we do and walking our dog very early in the mornings on newly washed sand (clean ...no doggy do left from unscrupulous owners either LOL) when there are less people of the beach (and this equals less distractions) is also great .. or later in the evening. If you are lucky you will also find another owner with a responsibly trained dog that you will be able to allow yours to play with. Here is Noodle as a very young pup on the tracking lead at the beach and another of her full grown about a month ago. PS Our dog has NO food drive so BBQ chicken doesn't work .......

I would have to agree with other DOLers on this one. We have a Puli (just turned 1 year old) and like you is not 100% in her recall. When going to the beach I put her on a tracking lead (Black Dog have tracking leads online that you could order or make up one of your own). Secondly our Noodle LOVES attention from anyone! This may be a good thing but I know from first hand experience with extended family members with three young children that are TERRIFIED to the point of HYSTERICAL at ANY dog of ANY age and ANY breed (a complete other story ... groan) ..... they would not greet your or any other dog well on the beach ... needless to say a nasty interaction. On that note I wish kindergartens and schools would do more education about interacting with animals (in every state/territory).. and parents too for that matter! It makes my blood boil to see such behaviour from children and a comment from a parent of 'get over it' ....... Go the lead ... and continue the training ...

Hi! Sorry for being a bit thick but what is 'EB'?? Just sat through a two hour school council meeting and have our youngest sick with an ear infection so I am feeling none to bright this evening. Nup ... wrong ... not a Newfie .. a Hungarian Puli!!!! Only 14" off the ground and doesn't shed hair so no problems having her in the house. She is just starting to 'cord' (dreadlocks) ... check out the piccies on the Breed Specific thread under 'PULI!' for more pictures of the breed. Good to hear all is going well with both bubs Noodle still occassionally wees on the carpet in the study ... my theory is she thinks it is grass! It is brand spaking new carpet too so no smells at all...... it only very occassioanlly happens but no where else in the house but there .... usually if she is in the study when our son is out there on the computer and not watching her ... gives me the irrits! Not Noodle's fault.... Here are some pictures of where Noodle's crate was in the kitchen when she was really little ... surrounded by a pen .. only there when we could not watch her constantly and at night. The there is a photos of what she sleeps in now in the kitchen .. just teh crate .. and then sitting on our 6yr old's lap.

Hi Redmum! Sounds like you are doing really well. We put our pup in the crate from the day we got her at night and toileted about every three hours for what seemed like MONTHS!! ... EXHAUSTING!! Up there with demand breastfeeding I reckon! I thought it would never end! Once Noodle was toileted at 11pm and put in her crate (in the kitchen which is literally the centre of our house) I ignored her. Very very hard at the start ... I tried crating her for a couple of hours intially on a Friday night and went shopping with the family as she would put up a right royal din! This way I didn't get stressed about the noise and she learnt that the noise was pointless. I would give her a frozen chicken neck when she was really little (your pup's age) to gnaw on. Our Noodle was also in a pen in the kitchen too initially for about 2 weeks (not 24/7!) to give her time to get used to the noises etc ....she would go in there when I couldn't watch her or the kids while I was making dinner for example or the kids were too hyped or SHE was too hyped and needed quiet time. Once Noodle was more obvious with her toileting needs she went on a lead attached to the kitchen drawers (kitchen is the centre of the house and a hive of activity) ... in the mornings when the kids got up as we needed to teach her not to jump up and the kids could easily control their behaviour of turning their backs on her and she could not physically get to them as they would stand just out of her range. They learnt to issue the 'sit' command and THEY learnt how to control their own behaviour as often that excited Noodle..... for us this worked well. The lead again was when we needed to closely monitor/control her behaviour or we couldn't watch her (ie kids and I off having a shower and not wanting her to lick us dry!! LOL) Noodle is now not on a lead (since 5 months) in the house and follows us (her pack) around wanting to be were we are .. it is great as she also does not jup up when she gets excited to see one of us walking through the front door and can contain her enthusiasm to put her butt and four paws on the floor waiting for a pat. Noodle is also outside when we are out with plenty of toys and more often than not inside keeping us company. Noodle heads into her crate at about 10:30ish and we don't hear from her until 6:30/7pm now ... she is nearly 9 months old. Yes, we have been strict with her but we have also got the behaviour we wanted from her ... jumping is a big 'no no' as I have a young neice and nephew apart from it being an undesirable behaviour full stop. For us it has been 'training' the kids too ... they are fabulous with her now! Noodle loves nothing more than curling up on our daughter's lap with a raw hide to chew or playing rough and tumble with our son. Good luck with your pup - I can only imagine how hard it is with a bub as well .. I honestly thought I had another newborn in the house when we bought Noodle home!! At leas the bub wears nappies!! grin........ can you tell I am well and truly over the puppy poo ???

I must admit the the balls I use for fetch are kept inside by me .. should see her when I walk out the door with one of them ... she gets so excited as she knows it is a play and it doesn't happen every day so it is even more a treat! I think in the first instance I will try the ball/toy idea for the recall .. her green ball X dumbell will be perfect but I think I will get two in case she decides that 'staying away' is more fun than bringing it back to me. I have read all the posts about the tug games ... I need a couple or nights to do a bit ore reading and thinking as my gut feeling is I am still not sure ... please don't be offended .. just need to reconsider as it is against what I have read and been told. I do remember my breeder saying that tug of war was fine as long as I took the toy EVERY time ... that is against some of your advice too .... hmmmm ...... need to think this one through and read the references one of you gave me. Thank you for all of your thoughts and suggestions .. got to get out there and give a few a goa nd see if I get some sort of positive response so that I can really hone in on that one.