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Me too, blergh.... Ooooh what are you ordering?

There is a pattern forming, I think we might have something with this no training scheme Well done with Abbey!

Yeah mine is always getting me into trouble! The black hawk supplier is Wendy from Barcoo kennels

You're the one feeding Black Hawk because it's cheaper than feeding your kids Nitro!!! My girls are on Black Hawk, 2 cups a day each plus training treats and occasional extras. Stupid iPhone changing my words, though some days I do wonder if I have fed my dogs nitro

Now that's a novel protein source!

Ostrich!!!?

Tiggy - unfortunately if you make the dog watch them they don't automatically learn, I've tried I use black hawk and am happy with it - kyzer can eat any old thing but trixie loses condition quickly if she doesn't agree with the food, she looks great on black hawk and they both like it, it's also cheaper than nitro which is a plus.

I'm not sure who that is but is it a chain vet...?

I don't like applecross vet either My mum had our old dog PTS at railway ave vet I am pretty sure, she said they were great, took her card details when she made the consult so she wouldn't have to go to the counter and pay at the time, and were very compassionate and non judgemental and let them take all the time they needed. And my mum is from the country and wasn't a client there already.

Really!? I left kenwick vet - the vet told me kyzer had a spinal problem and would need surgery and referred me to a specialist (I was devastated understandably), without even physically examining him... Specialist said he was a perfectly sound dog, turned out he was just eating bits of polar fleece from tug toys... I wasn't very impressed with them ad spent a lot of money to find out my dog was fine, but glad they were good to you and your mum and Chloe at such a hard time.

The Spotted Devil is a person who could help, she does agility with her Dallie, I'm sure she'll be along soon

Oh that video made me laugh I admire that woman's perseverence! I can't remember the last time I saw zoomies at a trial here? I know my dog did it once about a year ago, didn't enter another ring, I thought it was a bit funny because usually he is the opposiite of zoomie mode in the trial ring! We usually have one or two at training on Tuesdays though I hope Trixie never does it, I don't think she will. She just looks ridiculous when she zooms, she curls her tail down into a hook shape tucks her bum under and goes crazy

Awww RIP Chloe, little old lady

Of the 600 height dogs here in WA we have mostly BCs and Kelpies, with a small handful of gundogs (GSP, Weim, GR) and Belgians.

As someone who owns terriers (sucker for punishment ), I find the problem with both of my breeds are that since there are no 'working lines' or 'show lines', it's one and the same, trainability can vary, and so can temperament. I bought my Tenterfield and then got into agility with him, he was never chosen for it, he is clever and likes to work - but only if he is in the mood, and his temperament is not really suitable for agility. Though there is an agility champion Tentie in QLD, so obviously she has done well at Masters level. With my second dog, I knew I wanted something larger to do agility with, I decided on a Manchester Terrier, met a few and really liked them. There is an Ag Ch Manchester here and he was the only one I had seen doing agility in real life so I got mine from the same breeder and lines, her dogs were my preferred type anyway, it was still a lottery though. As it turns out she is just what I was after training wise, but she's on the naughtier end of the scale for MT's, the ones I met here in Perth were much more laid back than mine is. Mine's a bit mental. I have seen agility videos that range from impressive and speedy to a slow unenthusiastic trot You could get an adult rescue, you will have an idea of how the dog is temperament wise etc but there is so much foundation that is put into a puppy, you basically have a clean slate. I personally choose a breed I like that will fit in to my home, then a breeder, preferably based on dogs i have seen before, but it's still a gamble. You do improve your chances though if you choose a breed that is common in agility, and a breeder that has proven lines, just make sure that breed is your cup of tea at home as well.

There's a link on your profile for people to send you an email Atanquin - could they have sent it that way? ETA: if they did, Troy will have a record, it says

That is so out of line... no you should not give your puppy to a shelter just because you were having a bad day. We're all human, you've learned from it haven't you? Stick around, not everyone on DOL is like that and there is a wealth of information here.

Thought so - another thing to be aware of in the future. Thanks for the food for thought. Yes that's true, maybe it will! Yes very very fun, I just feel so in sync with her - I'm sure you know what I mean I hope you do RV. :D I dare say you will. I wouldn't say Trixie is independent at all, certainly much less so than Kyzer, in fact I think that's part of the reason she responds better, but she is just so different, she is almost fluid like?? I dunno maybe I've had too much sugar today This is going to sound ridiculous But it's like Trixie is so fluid and smooth, and Kyzer is more jerky and wiggly and can change direction at any moment, whereas Trixie gets on a line / curve and follows it, weird hey As a result, my handling with Kyzer is usually jerky and wiggly, and with Trixie it is smooth and fluid

Just a little random side note - Kyzer has never been particularly challenging handling wise (mood wise is a different story ), he is only little and not particularly speedy, and is the sort of dog you can handle by just running and doing a few front and rear crosses, he is easy to keep up with. Since training Trixie, I feel like my entire perspective on agility has changed and evolved and I feel like I am improving my handling every week because she is so much more of a challenge. I am always thinking about how to keep ahead of her, doing things like pushing her out to obstacles, and using lateral motion and I am absolutely loving it at the moment, she really gets the whole motion based handling thing naturally and is so responsive to me, just having so much fun at the moment!!!! That was just my ramble for the day

OK so you know what I mean by weird Yep that was one of the things I was thinking of trying - would probably also transfer to her wrapping jumps better too. Thanks for the tip No no it makes perfect sense to me, I know what you mean. Thinking about it I am usually facing the same direction as the DW when she is approaching it (parallel??) and sending her with my arm and motion, not facing the on-ramp on a sort of 90 degree angle (now I'm confusing myself ) I haven't done a pinwheel sort of approach to the DW before with her and I think I may have been a bit slow with turning my shoulders forward which may have pushed her out a bit far on approach - thanks for that has really given me something to think about I've done a quick diagram to try and explain it better, do you see what I mean when I say I could have pushed her out too far by not turning soon enough? What an awesome team! I know - it's inspirational to me love it.

Jeepers, glad you and baby are OK KL I got so frustrated reading your post - do people just not think?? How hard is it to hold a lead. Owners have every right to walk their dog in peace in an on lead area where dogs should be ON LEAD and not bothering others... unfortunately some people think they are too good to leash their dog... there are a few in my neighbourhood too.

He's not a puppy, he's a slab of muscle

Probably Ness, is that a DVD? she does the same thing with the see saw too really but hasn't fallen off yet (apart from the odd flyoff when first learning, doesn't really happen now).

I always use the same leads - either black dog ones (I have three, the newest was bought when I got Trixie 2 years ago) or the clean run slip leads, also bought a while ago, but these are really for Kyzer, Prefer a martingale on Trixie. I also haven't bought them new collars for well over a year I only buy Trixie custom made martingales which makes it a bit harder. I'm sure I'll get her a special one for trialling, but don't think I really like those polar fleece ones Don't know why? I have a green rope slip lead, never use it - too big for my two really

Oh my Gosh That photo is dying for a caption