holly

I have a girl that gets hotspots with certain foods. ANY of the Supercoat products bring out hotspots in her, even the Senstive, in fact I still have 1/3 of bag in a drum that is going to the bin. The Advance Turkey and Rice was no good either, found the Large Breed Growth exc. for mine with food allergies. Never tried Hills vet lines, tried Euk FP and there was not enough in it for my adult male, even tried Royal Canine GSD. I have them all now on Big Dog The Edge BARF and add a cup of Coprice Working Dog kibble to this. I was running low over the last few days and only had the Supercoat left, so had to feed that, my girl within 12 hours had her first hotspot in months! You can eliminate hotspots through very good flea control, diet and regularly brushing during shedding stages. When you get hotspots, I found Maleseb wonderful and cooling and also spray the area with Cetrigen purple horse spray, it has an antibacterial and fly repellent. I got the Coprice yesterday and already her hotspot is crusted over Sheltisrule, puppies can get puppy pimples too, they do clear over time. Also be aware of Ringworm, but your vet would have picked it up the time of consult

HI Dogbespotted, I have been waiting on my vet, but he must be busy, as he is always very prompt. The friends vet recommended a higher dose then what I was told and you recommend 1 ml per 15kg, are you sure that is the right dose to prevent heartworm and also to do intestinal worms in dogs with Ivomec .8 for sheep? If so then the next dose I will go with your measurement. Holly

Thanks your post made sense, am chasing up the dosage that we got here

Hi Pesh through Google found the mite information too, didn't know Ivomec did mites before today, thanks

from another vet it is 1ml/4kg, my dose would an underdose if compared to this dose, am waiting on word from someone I trust for their opinion Oh, sorry forgot the rule, have been using daily tablets for 3 years, only have recently changed to Ivomec, hope that helps

Can you please point me dogbesotted to where you got the dose from? As that was the dose I gave my dogs and was given to me by someone that was given the dose by their vet, my dogs were still alive the next day and are still around by the way and the friends having been running around on that dose for nearly two years Will double check the dose and post back As far as giving drugs that 'bubble' away for a month, would much prefer that over my dogs getting heartworm or bad case of intestinal worms, have seen dogs DIE from both. Have no problems even doing daily and have been doing so for nearly 3 years. I also have no problem using Advantix, which is a monthly 'bubbler' rather then having my dogs with 30 ticks a day down their ears and all over their bodies, which is what I was getting when I used weekly tick washes adn even on the Fidos, they, along with Frontline were totally useless, at least with these other monthly meds we can help prevent the diseases that the parasites will give our dogs

Hey Pesh, do you mean Ivomec does ear mites? T-time, you are welcome.

IVOMEC liquid for sheep, broad spectrum oral antiparasitic solution: Active constituent: Ivermectin 0.8g/l I bought a 5 litre bottle from vetproductsdirect, bypassing my produce store, he can get it too, but I had to buy some other things, like Advantix so went to the online store. for 30kg 4ml for 40kg 6ml Many do not sell offlabel because it looses those companies money that have it 'on lable' I would prefer to have extra in reserve like the a spey today bugger the lingo, I want good animal health care without sending us broke

I use Ivermec sheep wormer for my dogs, have only just started but my friend has been using it for a few years now and all her dogs are very healthy. What is in Ivermec is what is in Heartguard, except for the average size bitch GSD you use 4ml of Ivermec a month (3 of us shared in a 5 litre bottle ) it is far more econimical. My vet also uses Baycox for pigs to sort out Coccidia in dogs (that is off label) and another said to give a pregnant bitch with pica, human mutivitamins (that is off label) and another bit of advice for a bad tick infestation with Ivermectin injectable to protect the dogs (again off label) another bit of advice was buy the extra large frontline/Advantix and split the dose in half with a syringe, getting two dogs dosed with the one ampule, again off label, all these off label bits of advice save me $$$ a year, so I can put money aside for medical emergencies Ivermec for sheep does all worms, but it is still adviseable to dose with a Drontal All Wormer twice a year to make sure that the parasites have not built up resistance, this goes for any monthly worming product, even Revolution, the parasites will build up immunity to the one drug if always given just that product. What I also like about the Ivermec is dogs taht hate tablets, such as my Mini Foxie, can not argue with a liquid dose If you have Collies, you do NEED TO BE CAREFUL with Ivermec products I believe.

I was feeding fish oil caps too, also Olewo can help, but since I have been feeding the Big Dog The Edge and Coprice kibble, that is all they have needed in their diet, I love the way they are looking, one is in full chat season, so has dropped all her coat, as has another young girl, both have very shiny coats, pity they are stark naked, lol

Hi Erny thanks for the update on you guys I have been thinking of Kal and yourself Take care and those new habits Kal learns I am sure you will unteach them if you really must :rolleyes: Holly

Coat can give you so many indications on how the diet is going to whether they are sick. I can now pick up hyperthyroidism just by observing the coats look and feel, when my diet is working, such as right now, the coats are lovely and shiny and there is no stinky smell to them, I love shiny coats as I do shiny hair means they are healthy on the inside and outside Shampoos, have found a good horse shampoo and conditioner in one, it is a concentrated one and add a few caps too the hydrabath, it does all 5 dogs

my food allergy dog had yeast infections in his ears, I also used the Leo Ear Cleaner daily along with the Surolan, twice daily adn changed his diet. The diet did the trick and the ears cleaned up, he is on once weekly ear treatments now and his owner has to be careful to watch what his dog eats Holly

that is what I thought at the time too Cordie, though didn't realise it was a cheap as that!!! We can thank not only the vets, but also those in charge of pricing up stock for the huge price slugs, I know I had to fight tooth and nail when the new receptionist/invoice/costing clerk moved in to at least keep speys at a affordable price. Their motto"if you can not afford a vet, you can afford a pet" Her Pyo procedure, entailed a full body function profile, $140, an xray $30, the opening of her abodomen, the flushing out of her abdo cavity ($575) and the removal of ovaries and uterus (spey) ($150), then a 5 day course of AB's (normally $90 + $11 dispensing fee). I was lucky though, as I had only just got home from work to find her in her state, so was able to get back before staff had left, otherwise I would have been up for after hours consult ($75) and the calling in of a vet nurse, add another $60, I couldn't see how $1100 was justified and I took out pet insurance straight after. What p***ed me off, was I knew exactly what was wrong, I told my vet I believed it to be pyo because of her previous symptoms, but then they had to do these tests to do what they could have done from the start and explorative op. When I had my bitch with the vaginal stricture, it cost me $240 = $45 for the consult, $30 path smear to look at a slide under the micrscope, ("I know she is not ready but how about we see whether she is ready or not", stupid me presumed that would be free ), then she was put under a GA to 'stretch her'. We ended up not being able to do a mating, short of resorting to AI and I am not interested in continue unvigorous lines, so that was a heck of a lot of money down the tubes, thankfully the owner of the import stud, didn't charge me $300 for wasting their time she is now a speyed pet I can understand why many pet owners self medicate. If one of my pets was ill, they would be rushed to the vet, but otherwise, I try and treat myself and if no good then they go for a check up, to date the home remedies have usually done the trick

I use many of our human medicines on our pets with no harm, you are best off checking the list of medicines that you can not give animals, eg; Panadine The major difference between animal and human medicines is human medicines have been tested on animals first and then human trials are carried out, whereas animal treatments have not gone past the animal testing phase My kids from time to time come home with the dreaded headlice, the first treatment we used was Maldison (exactly the same as the dog ingredients, but was dearer, being for head lice! then what I could buy in the Produce store) Hope one day we can use Advantix on headlice, it is fantastic with our ticks, should work a treat for the persistent little louse! Human medicines are a fair bit cheaper then animal ones too, eg: to treat my girl after her Pyo op on Clavilox cost me over $90 just for a 5 day course at the vet, plus a $11 dispensing fee and the consult $45! whereas at the doctor, to get the human form, costs $20 for the script and dispensing, $45 for the consult, you get back $31.85 from Medicare, thank you PBS!!!! Eye ointments are the same and most eye ointments for humans you can use on dogs, just make sure you use the right product, there are ones for infections, dry eye, ulcers etc all do different things. I have used human eye ointments on my dogs (prescribed for the same human condition and my dogs have been great in a few days) Perhaps if vets didn't add up to 1000% on to their products and make the visit a bit cheaper, people would not go for over the counter medications, the vets are just shooting themselves in the foot. I liked my old vets policy on treatment, but my new vet is so much more clever and goes the extra mile for unheard of conditions. I have no problems with paying for a good service, but I do object to those $11 dispensing fees and 1000% product mark ups :D with my girls pyometra operation, my vet didn't have sunction equipment to remove the puss from her abdominal cavitity so he went through 13 bags of 1litre bagged saline, he hit me up $30 odd per bag (they cost less then $12 each) and $11 per bag for dispensing. Her $1100 life saving operation, $575 of it came from those salty water bags alone, I was really p***ed off, especially considering I worked for him and used my home office for his work! But he did save her life, my girls breeder stated she has lost bitches on the table with the same form of Pyometra Vet's get your heads out of the sand!

If I was paying someone to wash my dog, then I would EXPECT clean water for each dog! I have a single tank and can wash the 5 in the one water, like Isaviz, I only use Fidos free itch and the dogs are not dirty, so I get the whole lot done in the one tank of water and we only have rain water, nothing else If they are dirty, I have bought some wonderful horse shampoo and conditioner in-one and 40ml to a tank does them all, they are then rinsed off under the tap and all are shiny But definetly, I expect to get what I pay for and I do not pay for babies to have a a dirty bath. Dru, I was a middle child, but we never had two kids to the bath water, we either all jumped in together as tots, or we had individual showers ;) but have stayed with relies, who had small elect water heaters and they did expect to give me the SECOND bath each time *yuk* When we bought our house, we made sure we had continous gas and all visitors get a nice clean wash with a power rose spray (hate those water wise roses with a passion) SORRY OT :D

I voted 'other' My pups are raised on Advance, but for my older pups and adults, I now have them on Coprice and Big Dog The Edge BARF diet, they are doing wonderful, lovely shiny coats, full of energy, my old girl does not get the cracked nose she gets with food allergies nor the hot spots and itchy skin, though they are all a bit on the porky side, am just adjusting calorie levels to find a happy medium

Hi Trifecta thanks for that information, wonder how much of a mark he would put on it though or can it be bought from Chemist without a prescription? Anyway worth asking about next time.

Hi Inspector Rex sorry about your girl,so glad she on the mend and is her back better? I have used Metacam lots of times with no adverse reactions, but only found out after the third time, that you should give the meds with food, were you told that? We have had great success with Metacam the worse illness being after my old girls spey and she went into shock during the night, her white blood cell count was abnormal, my vet gave her Pethadine and Metacam injection and within half an hour she was back to her usual self. Have used for Pano in a young pup, a crick in a neck and more. The drug is great for arthritis too so much so my vets human clients wish they could take it like their old dog, but it does not work on humans the same way, sadly As Nadia said all meds do have some adverse reactions with some patients. Have you heard of other Collies having the same problem? Aren't Collies allergic to Ivermec???? my memory is a bit fuzzy

Your girl is lovely, hope she starts to feel better soon

Wow that is a lot of money. When we adopted our Mini Foxie he needed some teeth extractions and a clean and that was in total of $250. I know my Mum in Sydney was charged $250 for a dental from her old vet, but the one she sees now, she charges $150 What is wrong with giving your dog bones to chew on? My GSD have never required dentals and since our M.F has accepted what he get here, his teeth have been a lot better. He use to only eat soft food, now he will chew on bones like the rest of them, his anal gland problems have cleared up too!

Good point Magnum and as this condition can be inherited, perhaps they could consider doing some research for the future

gsds4me, sorry I have had no experience, yet, with this disease, you are in luck though, being in NSW as Dr Karen Hedberg is there, as you know, if you have not seen her, I would recommend making a visit.

I am interested in this, do you squirt it into the ear like Leo Peibe? How often can you use it, daily/weekly? How did you ear of this mix? thanks in advance Holly

Leo is great and backing it up with a Canker ear drop or Suralan and using a flea control that also has a mite component, such as Revolution I have found did the trick. Revolution is what my vet recommended to those that couldn't afford more expensive mite control and it works. Advantix is more affordable then Revolution, does mites, but I am not sure if it does ear mites, others maybe able to answer that one. With so much scratching, you would also need to be careful that she does not get a Aural Haemotoma, which is where the scratching and head shaking breaks a blood vessel in the ear and the ear fills up with fluid, it is very painful. Diet can also be a trigger for ear problems too