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Strange, my advice is exactly the same as yours. Takes one to know one eh? :rolleyes:

The Australian Olympic team members for Beijing are to be offered vaccinations for hepatitis, typhoid, polio, tetanus, whooping cough, diththeria, measles, mumps, rubella & influenza to minimise the chance of athletes catching any infection. Bird flu is also a worry. I would suggest the medical team would only recommend the athletes have these vaccinations because of the real risk of infection. Same thing with your puppy as our olympians. It is only a couple of weeks they have to worry about, but why risk it.

I haven't seen any posts that said not to allow puppies off the premises until after they have their second vaccs, be they thirteen weeks or older. And i don't advise puppy buyers to quarantine their puppies . I do strongly advise they not take their puppies anywhere other unknown dogs frequent. Public parks for example. I also strongly suggest they NOT do any puppy pre school type activities until after their puppy has had their 12 week booster. There are certain precautions that are easy to impliment & I think putting a puppy at risk for no good reason is irresponsible in the extreme. I have not heard of any responsible breeders who advocate ''early socialisation'' at the risk of their puppies contacting any dseases, viral or otherwise. Four to five weeks will not make any difference in the ''socialisation'' of a puppy. But it could be a life or death decision. People wouldn't risk their kids in such a situation, why should they risk a puppy. Risk being the operative word. Many, many puppies are socialised early without any problems. But not all.

Common sense tells us it is not possible to completely eliminate risks, (though yes I certainly take precautions with footwear when there are young puppies at home, in fact shoes are left at the door), but risks can minimised as much as possible. After all, would you try and cross the road when the traffic is at it's busiest, or would you wait until there is little to no traffic and then cross? Pedantic is pedantic. But some people like to live on the edge. Devil may care adventurers.

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I really didn't take any notice your signature thing. Which is more an advertisment than anything else. It says it all though. I don't give any credence to those driven by the bottom line. These days we have dog behaviouralists, dog psychologists, dog analylists, dog everyotherthingists. Everyone of them exploiting the gullible. Give a dog love, respect, a regular feed & a warm place to sleep & you have a loving, respectful, sated, warm happy dog that is a joy to the world. If there are any problems it's the owner that needs training & socialising.

I have given you all the assisstance necessary. Don't take you puppy to a place frequented by dogs you don't know until about a week after the puppy has had it's 12 week vaccinations. If that's not what you wanted to hear I'm sorry. But that is best advice you ever going to get on the subject. I didn't say I don't socialise my dogs until they are over twelve months old. I said I don't put puppies on the floor at the vets. &, hpoefully, the next time they are at the vets will be for their 12 months vaccs. Meaning I hope I have no reason to visit the vets except for vaccinations. Any time after the final vaccs has kicked in is plenty soon enough to socialise a puppy. Even twelve months is not to late for a well adjusted puppy raised in a loving home. This idea that puppies must be socialised as soon as they are weaned, or so it seems, is just false. You can't exhibit a puppy before it is three months. You can't join an obedience club before the puppy is three months & has a current vacc certificate. which, incidentally, applies to all dogs wanting to join an obedience club, regardless of age. If you think that after a couple of sessions at a puppy pre school you little puppy is then ''socialised'' you are in for a rude shock. ''Socialisation'' is an ongoing lifetime thing. Which you puppy will never experience if it contacts parvo & dies within 24 hours.

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How old is the puppy? Depending on diet. Every four/six weeks is usually sufficient.

More informed than most. I said my puppies don't touch the vets floor until they are fully vaccinated. Hopefully, there is no reason they should touch the vets floor for 12 months after their 12 weeks booster. As in no reason to vist the vets for 12 months. At which time they can walk right on in. If people want to do puppy pre school, go right ahead. The chances of your puppy catching parvo or something else are slim. But not unknown. People should be aware of the risks. If they think the risk is worth it, for a couple of hours of puppy romping that,if not followed up on are really worthless in the scheme of things, go ahead. I don't. That's just my opinion.

It is more to do with the vital time when a puppy must be immunised. Parvo doesn't care if a puppy is social or not. The couple of weeks between final vaccination & socialising could mean the difference between life & death. And that is not being melodramatic, it's a fact. A puppy is still a baby at thirteen weeks. Plenty of time for socialising after that. Personally, my puppies never, ever, touch the vets floor until after they are fully vaccinated. Hopefully that is twelve months down the track when they have their first annual vaccination. You wouldn't let kids play on the floor of the infectious diseases ward of a hospital with other kids you know nothing about. Same thing.

Some puppies are puppies until they are 6 months old, some are puppies forever. Why anyone would risk their baby puppies life for the sake of a couple weeks is very hard to fathom.