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i would have to agree with the OP link... sorry talked about the vet too... my young dog who is now 2 1/2, became lame on his back leg at about 10mths, after running in the paddock on wet ground, he was kept crated for a few days- well quite a few actually... the leg just didn't seem to get better... so off to the vet we go... he was bearing weight on it at that stage quite well, but after exercise would favour it a bit... anyway Vet straight away suspected cruciate damage, said they would need to xray to rule out any bone damage and to fully check the joint out... so he was booked in... the following Monday.. off to the vets we went, and then later that day i get a phone call from the vet(who wasn't the one supposed to be doing the exam) explaining what they found and they would talk more about our options later... they wanted to do full TPLO surgery reccommended asap, as my dog had apparently ruptured his cruciate... then went on to explain that they had had full training in such surgery but had never performed it, and would be able to do so at a reduced cost, considering it would be the first they have ever done... i said " so you want him to be your first guinea pig- meaning trial and error case" and he agreed ... he told me to think about it and let them know as it needed to be done quickly if teh dog was to have a good recovery... he wasn't even going to show me the xrays... i asked to see them, because i always like to see what i pay for... i had his hips xrayed as well... he only put the xray up of the sore knee and then tried to point out were the damage was??? uh i know what xrays look like and from research knew what to expect, i then had to ask again for the other knee xray to be put up... well as i expected they were both exactly the same... both very clear... i wasn't a very happy camper at this point, and left telling them i would think about it and let them know... if i was to get cruciate surgery on any of my dogs it would be done by a specialist... so i was searching for a specialist for a 2nd opinion.. as i am not that gullible... anyway someone asked if i had had his back checked out.. no why would i??? so off to a vet chiro we went with all the dogs, i said nothing about his cruciate.. and guess what the poor fella had his back and neck out, he was adjusted and put on light restricted exercise for 3 weeks, then went back for another and was fine... i asked this guy about his cruciate and then told him what my other vet wanted to do... lets say he was shocked... apparently his back would have been out from an injury sustained as a young puppy, from a hard knock i was told... and i do remember what happened.. sort of... i came home from work one day and he had escaped from his pen and was limping, a few days rest and he was ok, so thought nothing more of it... but as his back was out he never had a proper gait... so was always putting pressure on that knee joint, until one day it was a bit too much pressure, he had severe muscle wastage in that leg from not using it properly, so it was a long recovery to get him to full strength, but he is there and has currently started to compete in Agility and is doing well, goes for regular checkups at the chiro and has only been out 1 other time... his muscles have built back up very well and it has taught me a lot about strength training in performance dogs as all the dogs now do it... the chiro has also given me the skills to check my dogs so i know if they are out and need an adjustment... anyway just thought i would share as sometimes we need to look further than where the actual pain/injury looks to be...

yeah i agree to all.. when i was sent the link i just had to share...

for those who havn't seen this.. it is great... What a team they make...

a pic of my young boy this afternoon, had some fun playing with new camera.. this was taken to crop... any body have an idea whats happened to photobucket... what do you all use to upload pics from???

these pics taken with my old Kodak C340... have just purchased a Canon 450D yesterday.. so looking forward to lots more pics... i love to crop pics...

definetly Susan Garretts 2x2 weave training for me... COntacts... the 360 Ness mentioned, as well as Bridging the gap by rachel saunders, great for 2o2o training... all can be purchased from Cleanrun.com

Names are Fun!!! all my current dogs are Border Collies... The Old Boy - Buddy, a rescue originally named Blocka - nah that was never going to stay, and he was going to be my mate so Buddy it was.. suits him... Then along came Coco... a choc/white BC... i liked Bailey wanted her reg name baileys n cream, but didn't want another dog starting with the letter B, and couldn't have baileys n cream as it was already taken... then decided on Chico for choc jelly babies, but someone mentioned chiko rolls so that name never stuck... the kids of the people i was working for at the time liked Coco ... reg name i got to choose as Roki Road... Then GT, cause she is reg Gin and Tonic, puppy and name chosen at Agility Camp over a few drinks... father is named Schnapps...also liked the name Blitz her sister ended up being called Blitz cause my friend got her and liked the name... Then Focus cause of his blue eye and i really liked the name was on the list and when i saw him knew he was a Focus... reg name woody willow, had no choice in that he was reg when i got him don't like his reg name at all... Rumour... bred by me out of Coco original owners called her Shady, i reg her Spring Fling- when she came back and i decided she would stay, gave her a new name Shady did not suit her.. Rumour was on my list and it suits her as well as her reg name... Previously owned dogs include long coat chihuahua - Angus named when i got him and it suited him... German Shepard - Doofus he wasn't really, also called that when i got him it sort of suited him... some of the puppies i have bred/named names include Reg name / Call Name MArbled Ruckus - Ruckus Marbled Choc Shake - Shaker Tri Rhythm n Blue - Rhythm Dream Weaver - Dream Choc Follie - Molly Bling Diamond - Bling High on Spirit - Spirit Etched in Time- Thyme Jolly Swift - Swift Choc Toblerone - Toby Road Trippa - Roadie Oz Choc Mayhem - Mayhem Marbled Trubble - Jinx Code Breaka - Breaka Choc Quizz - Quizza

she's not Bad.. just pampering herself with a mud bath.... just like her mum...(who forgot to rinse off)

what Laffi said

As the breeder of the dog in Question... most definitely more mental stimulation is needed, both Sire & Dam are active dogs who are active in Agility/Canine Disc & Herding, although not pure working lines, both have great desire and instinct to work stock... and am sure if given the chance would be very happy to live there lives just working stock.. well maybe not Coco who enjoys doing everything... have sent Bexsta a private email with my thoughts on Kobe, but basically not enough mental stimulation... also do not think that a behaviourist is needed and the fact that she has already taken steps to interfere in the unwanted behaviours tells me she is on the right track...

Look like a Border Collie that my Aussie Shep plays with at our local park. yeah he is a choc merle tri border... sire to Rhythm(the blue merle tri girl in earlier posts) quite often gets called a Koolie more so than an Aussie... but i loves him so no matter what he gets mistaken as...

LOL that would be cheating???

Aussie or BC???

Abrham Ali Andrew Andy Angus Apollo(different spelling!) Appollo Archie Arkhan Armand Arq Ashke Atlas Bailey x 4 Balou Bandit Banjo Bardigrub Bart X 2 Barton Baxter Bear x2 Bender Ben Benji Benny Benson Billy Bing Bluey Bomber Bosch Bosco Boxer Brady Brian Custard O'Doggle Brock Brockie Brody Bronson x2 Bruce Bud BUDDY Bundyx2 Buster Cannon Caramel Carl Casper Champ Charlie x 5 Chevy Chief Chip x 2 Chok Clifford Coco Cooper x3 Cory Cowan x 2 Cowboy Cuba Danny Darcy x 2 Dashx2 Deakin Dean Declan Delgado Dennys Dog Diablo Diesel x2 Digby Digger Dinky Douglas Dumas Dylan Ebon Echo Eddie Elijah Elliott Edge Esky Fergus x 2 Fox x 2 FlashBazil Fleming Fletcher Flynn FOCUS Frank Fudge Gandor Geo George Greedy Grover Guiness mcGuinness Hail Harley Harrison Harry Henry Hogan Hudson Hugo Ivan Jack x 3 Jake x 2 Jasper x 2 James JayDee Jethro Jet Jett Jordan Joshua Judd Juggie Kahn Kaiser x 2 Kasper Kaos Kiba Kei Kippy Kisho Kynan Kyzer Leo Lincoln Lenny Leroy Lestat Logan Luca Ludwig Lughie Lukas Lukon Mac X 2 MacKenzie Mark (the cat) Mason Max x 5 Maxie Maxwell THE DOG Mel Merlot Merry Milky Milosh Milton Minook Mistral Mojo Mokha Morris Mr Darcy Nammu Napoleon Nelsson (yes two s's) Nicky Nigel Noah Nova Nudge Nugget Onslow Oscar Oz Payton Pete Phoenix Phantom Piikki Porsha Punch Quick Raffy Ralph Randy Reeve Reagan Rex Ricky Riku Riley Ripley River Rocks Rolly Rory Rove Rover Roy Jones Jnr Rupert Rusty Sam Satchmo Scout Scrap Scratch Shadow Seth Silas Snitch Sonny Soul Spartan Speed Spencer Spike Sport Spud Sterling Stig (The) Storm Stryker Sumo Swanky Tazz x 2 Teddy Tey Dog Thunder Tiger Tirra Toby x2 Tolkien Tommy Tub Tusca Tye x2 Tyson Udo Ulf Valdez Wags Walker Watson Weave Whisky Willow Willy Wilson Woody Wycomb Yoshi Zac Zedley Zeppelin Zephyr x 2 Zeus Zuma I thought I"d added mine but must have done it at the same time someone else amended the list so have done it again (someone else must have a Bart & a Mac but there is only ONE Grover!! ).

Abbigail Abby AJ Alika Alchemy Amber Amelia Amy x 2 Anais Annie Anastacia (Annie) Angel X 4 Anishinaabe Annabelle Annabella April Arizona Asante sana Ashka Askari Astro Audrey Aura Ayla Baba Baci Bailey Beans Becky Bella x3 Bit Blaize Blossom Bonny x 2 (Bonnie) Bonita Brandy Bree Bridie Buffy Cally Cassie Casper CC Cedar Chelsea Chevy x 2 Chloe x 2 Charlotte Cider Cinta CJ x 2 Claire Claudia Clover Cleoparta Coco x3 Cossette Daisy Dallas Delilah Delta Demi Dexta Diazz Dinky Durham Dyzney Ebony Echo Elizabeth Ella Ellie Ellie x2 Emily Emma Erin Evie Faith Fanta Finta Fleur Froggy Gabby Gemma Genie (not exactly a girly name but I thought it suited my goldy) George Ginny Gita Glitter Grace Griffin GT Gypsy x2 Harlow Hayley x2 Heddy Heidi x2 Holly x 5 Honey Honour Hope Imme Imogen - Imy Jade Jane Jay Jay Jazz Jenna x 2 Jess Jessi Jessie x 2 Jezebel Jindi Jodie Juliet Kara Kari Karma Karmen Kaos Katie Katy Kayla Keilani Kelli Kelsey Kenzie Kiesha Kiri Kiri-Lu Kirra (agility name Kiz) Kizzey Krissy Kuean - (Queen) Lacey Layla Lea (lele) Lexi x 2 Libby Lily x 2 Lobo Logan Lola x 2 Lottie Lucy x5 Luuka Mable Maddison Maggie x2 Mallee Marie Claudette Marlo Meg Meisha Merrique Mia Milla Millie x3 Minnie x 2 (Mynni) Minouche Mischka Mitzi Molly x5 Molly Coddle Moochie Mya Nala Narla Natasha Nena Ness Olivia Paris Paxy Pearl Peggie Pebbles Phoebe Pip Piper Polly Popcorn Porridge Prada Quince Rani Reba Rebel Reno Rhoda Riki Rizzi Rogue Rommi Rosey Rosie Roxy x 2 Ruby x3 Rumour Sabrina Sadie Saffron Safire Sally x2 Sarah Sarah Jane Sascha x 2 Satu Savannah Scandal Shae Shandy Shannon Sharnie Sheba Shine Sinta Sienna Skye SkySnow Sophie x2 Sophia Springy Spook Stella x2 Stimpy X2 Storm Sue Suzie Sybill Tara Tasha Tayla Teegan Tess x 2 Tessa Texas Tia x 2 Tilli Tilly x3 Tinny (tin tin) Tori Tully Tyra Vada Voodoo Winter Wilhelmina Xanthe Zillah Ziva Zoe x 3

when you have them at 1 to 7 oclock, and normal gaps(so when they are rotated straight they will be correct distance), thats when you close em up... sometimes though i have found that it can be easier to close one set, then the other... Coco struggled with entries so i closed the last 2 poles then the first 2, with GT i had to close the first 2 then the last 2.. with Focus i straightened em all at once... really depends on the individual dog, i think the most important thing is to not have them at say 1-7 for any length of time, beacuse the dogs really do pattern the poles, so they need to be straight asap, if not 4 than at least 2 poles IMO... the dog in the dvd got them quick because that is how quick it can be...

i would say all these are in drive...

Hey AD... use the frisbee.... the value of the frisbee will then transfer to the poles... when training you need to use your most valued reward, in CK's case a frisbee, don't throw it long and if need be do rollers along the reward line, well as close as one can get... good luck with it, and yes some video would be great... have fun with it it is a great process for training weavers, i have trained 3 of mine with the method and would not do it any other way...

yes that should be great, wonder who the lucky state will be, for the seminars...

It is defeintly Money well spent, i attended Lyndas seminars when she was out here last.. a fantastic trainer... I am doing all of the QLD seminars again this time...

Can understand that - especially since you were always introduced as the most important person on the field, and you did such a great job. Oh that's right, no one had a foul! You should talk to those competitors and make them do a foot fault next time, you'd definitely get on TV that way!! But I did see you nearly everytime they threw. Thyme did a great job - yeah must be the breeding! i am more than happy that they didn't show me waving my red flag at the start... have no desire to be on TV... and Thanks i was proud of Thyme & Matt.. they have done a great job with her...

Well i was particularly excited that Thyme managed to make it into the televised show... was great to see one of Coco's puppies handling it so well... A great show.. i was dissapointed that they didn't show me waving my little red flag though.. great job by AD & CK