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Yes but they need money they might but i am not going to look at any website that warns me it has adult content so i don't know if this is a legit charity or what they are doing. shock tactics don't work with me Shock tactics? For heaven's sake. All blogs that have potentially distressing content have a warning in case you do not wish to view that content. You are making it sound as though it is a porn site! I am telling you that this is legitimate. Again, I ask that if you have no interest or disagree with what this woman is doing, then fair play to you; just don't go there and don't participate. Please don't make perjorative and inflammatory comments that may harm this cause that you don't know about (by your own admission) because you haven't read the blog. I'm feeling discouraged and sad about the state of the world reading these glib throw away lines. Yes, she might fail in her efforts but give me a compassionate failure anytime rather than apathy and a sense of one's own superiority.

Yes, quite. How? No funding=no programmes. If they are donation de sexing, let them donate Euth and education. The donations are not just for de-sexing. It is for whatever best fits the situation. If a dog can be de-sexed and rehomed, great; if not and PTS is the only option then so be it and an education programme would be fantastic as well but that is a long term project that needs adequate funding and planning. This is one person who is just starting up. The infrastructure will come with adequate funding but at least she is trying.

What's inhumane about euthanasia? I am not saying that euthanasia is inhumane. The situation of these dogs currently is inhumane. I feel like I am banging my head against a wall here. Lets just say that if you are interested and like minded; here is some info for you. If not, then leave it be but please read what I am saying correctly and read the blog before you have a knee jerk reaction to a complex problem.

Yes, quite. How? No funding=no programmes.

It is actually. Same as India, South America, Asia. Westerners come in and go Ohhh Noessss these poor dogs. Much easier if they're just shot and the people are educated about feral dogs spitting out lots of puppies. Again I have to disagree Raz. You are looking at it from the perspective of what you would do. The government in Fiji can't get water to villages or children to school in some places because of their incompetence and corruption. They couldn't care two hoots about the animals except on the regular poisoning campaigns where these animals suffer terribly. The person who has set up the foundation realises this and knows that the solutions to the problem may be unpalatable to animal lovers but is realistic enough to know that for these poor creatures, going to sleep would be the kindest option. So, we then get back to the problem, government funding - in your dreams, a populace who have the means to care for their animals - no, they are struggling to feed their kids, so yes mass euthanasia could be a humane solution. Where do you get the funding for this? There's the rub. THis person is not a bleeding heart, she is trying to find humane solutions for an inhumane problem. If those of you who are naysayers have a problem with that, then of course you are entitled to your opinion but don't try to bring down a truly caring person who is trying to alleviate suffering one dog at a time.

There is a volunteer vet in Suva which is a four hour drive away from the West Coast where my friend is working. They come to Nadi once a month if we are lucky to do repair work for dogs that have been hit by cars etc. Euthanizing costs money. And she is not saying that euthanizing is not an option. If you read her blog you will see that it is often the only option. Again, not possible on a large scale due to lack of personnel and funds. No one is doing this to get warm fuzzies believe me! Nothing about the deplorable situation over there comes anywhere close to anything warm and fuzzy. But you are entitled to your opinion. I find it is often people who espouse the warm fuzzy line are precisely those who sit on their arse and do not much of anything. Sure that isn't you though.

Staranais, they do get volunteer vets occasionally over there but they always go to Suva and only for a short time. I fed a cat that took up residence on my balcony until my neighbours went bananas and so I rang the SPCA and they could only advise that I find a home for it or dump it in the cane fields, that is how short on resources they are. Ready set go, it does look that simple from a Western perspective but sadly it just isn't. 1)No vets to do the euthanizing on a large scale. 2)Even if there was a vet available, the economy over there is such that people are very, very poor. They can't afford even basic care. I'm ashamed to say though that the worst culprits are the expats. They buy dogs to guard their property, don't bother speying or neutering and then bugger off and dump the poor dog. It is an impossible task but if she can make life better for just a couple of dogs, then in my books it is worth it.

Hello All Got a lot of support and advice a few years back on this forum. I have just moved back to Australia after living in Fiji. The situation over there with feral dogs is just heartbreaking and soul destroying. Posting a link to a friend's blog. She has started a foundation to try to raise money to help some of these poor wretched creatures. If anyone can help it will go a long, long way over there. Cheers, regards and many thanks for your past support. http://helptofijistreetdogsbyflickafund.bl...30fefbfacee6334

Yes, perhaps she is connecting past events with what is happening now. She was fine for a couple of weeks and then seemed to regress in her house training. FGM, a handful is right! This week the rest of the family (extended) went away for Easter so i have had the job of looking after both of them. I've had the flu so feel wretched anyway but by the time I walk the dogs, rinse them both off and get on with other things, I'm exhausted by the end of the day. Conclusion; I must be getting old!! Good luck with the TT with your new puppy as well. What sort of dog is it?

Will take some wee to the vet to see if that is the problem. She isn't reluctant to wee when she is on leash out walking and I do praise her and I caught her weeing on the grass while I was at the kitchen window and praised her. I think there may be something in the UTI theory so will do that as my first port of call. I'll keep you all posted as to the progress. I mean it isn't like it is some huge problem or anything. They have both come so far and are really beautiful natured doggies but if I can prevent it, it would be good. Even though I clean it up as soon as I find it, the house is starting to get "that" smell! Ran into someone who saw the dogs in the park when we first got them. She was surprised when she saw how much more relaxed this dog has become. She was frightened of everything when she first came home and now she can't wait to get out there and run and play. It is really beautiful to see. Thanks guys.

Thank you for your advice and suggestions. I will try all of them! The thing that still doesn't make sense to me though is the body language thing. I can be in the lounge or the bedroom totally unaware that she has weed until she gets up and runs outside. At the times where she hasn't weed she just continues to lay there when I come out into that part of the house. So my body language doesn't change until after she has cut and run if you know what I mean. I guess it is this point which leads me to feel that it isn't just a toileting issue. It SEEMS almost like she is thumbing her nose at me and then thinking "Oh, oh!". I know it sounds crazy but ....... What do you think? As Sidoney pointed out, I don't want our relationship to be damaged by this so I will try all of your suggestions and see what happens. Every time someone on this forum has given me advice it has worked beautifully so fingers crossed. The other is just my musings about why but maybe there is no why, I'm misreading the situation and it simply is a toileting issue. Onwards and upwards! Thanks again.

PS: She knows it is wrong to wee there as when I come outside from the lougeroom, if she has weed, she runs outside to the backyard.

OK, I have read all the toilet training tips but I still can't work out how to remedy my current situation. We have two rescue dogs who are now about eight months old, we have had them for three months now. They have come a loooooong way and are delightful dogs, both very different natures. One is very laid back and quite stubborn when he has a goal in mind and the other is very nervy and a high energy type of dog. They are inside outside dogs. Sleep inside at night and during the day have unrestricted access to inside and outside. We have a huge backyard that is both grassed and hard surface. The nervy dog wees inside constantly. I expect some puddles and poos occasionally overnight but she wees inside, on the landing, constantly. I don't say anything, just clean it up and spray a citus cleanser over the area. Today, she had weed and pooed overnight on the landing. Cleaned it up and was watching TV for a while. When I came out she had weed on the landing again. THis time I brought her upstairs, showed her the wee, said no and took her outside to the grass and said "wee". About half an hour later she weed again on the landing, obviously had to squeeze one out as there wasn't much wee there. It is almost like a defiant act although logically I know dogs don't think that way. Could anyone who is au fait with canine behavioural theory give me a clue to why she would be doing this? Any suggestions to halt this would be most gratefully received as I am at a loss. Cheers

Hi No problem at all passing the link on to Lynne but I have absolutely inundated her with photos of the pair of them. Hope all is well with your babies and that you have a happy Easter.

Can't offer any advice as our two still aren't reliable but whoever it was who mentioned paper towel! My goodness we should take stocks out in a paper towel company and spray and wipe.

http://www.dogster.com/dogs/503959 Pasted this on the last topic but don't know if you saw it. Some photos of Rori and Carter.

PS: The grey dog is my beautiful Jenna who I lost last year at the age of 16.

Da,da! I have created a page on dogster which has some photos. http://www.dogster.com/dogs/503959

I've tried benny but not being very au fait with photos on the computer, it keeps telling me that they are too big even though i try to resize them. Will try again.

Thanks again folks. It certainly doesn't sit well with me as I never used this form of reprimand with my old dog. I guess it all comes down to the fact that I worry he will get hurt. I have sussed out now who is around and when and try to take them when I know there are no aggressive dogs around. He is learning to play nicely! This morning when I took them to the water, I had to laugh. Rori is much more energetic than he is. There was a sixmonth old staffy there today and she and Rori were having a great time wrestling in the water and the sand. Carter joins in intermittently but most of the time he goes into the water shoulder height and walks back and forth. IT reminds me of people doing lap walking at the pool. He is just so big and ungainly that he can't keep up and it is like he isn't going to make himself look silly trying to!

Thanks for your replies. You are right Tony, I never even considered that! Tony I followed your advice about the laying down when walking and am happy to report that he never once lays down now and really loves his walks. Thanks for the advice, it was very effective.

I am like a new dog owner so be gentle! I had my last lovely girl for sixteen years so I have well and truly forgotten puppyhood and am out of the loop about current training practice. The other day i took the dogs down to a little beachy part of the harbour so they could ahve a paddle. Carter is just a real boy and gets a little to rough with his play and because he is so big the other dogs get scared. This worries me as i don't want to be constantly on edge when i am out with them. He was chasing and wrestling like he does with Rori (she was with my niece on the Bay Run) and this dog didn't like it. Fair enough. I chastised him and that was it but the owner of this other dog asked me if I wanted to see what I should do if he did something I didn't want him to do. I said yes. She called him over and he trots over like a little lamb and she grabbed him with two hands by the scruff of his neck and shook the bejesus out of him until he cried. She said it didn't hurt but this is what their mother's did to them to tell them off. Is this current practice? Seems a little harsh to me but then again I don't want him turning into a thug either.

At least you guys have discerning puppies! Our two will chew anything. Sometimes it is hard to remember they are just pups as they are big (especially the cattle/mastiff). He is just a chomping set of jaws on legs! BUT, when I get home, they are so glad to see me that their whole bodies wag-I can deal with the chewed stuff!

Your two new babies are lovely! What sort of dog is the brown dog?

I know that I need to just forget about it Sas and I will. I don't know what it is but I was hesitant to get Carter even though he was such a big sooky boy as I felt that he might be attacked. I think I just need to chill out and stop worrying. Benny My dog Jenna was an RSPCA dog. Cross cattle/B.C. We got her when she was twelve weeks old and she died at 16. She was a friend when I felt like I had none and always there for me so i really understand how you are feeling. Funny thing is that when my niece and nephew said they were going to get the dogs (we live together), I was really excited as I felt it might help me to get over Jenna. The first couple of weeks we had them, I had never cried as much as I did then. It was the realisation that they were beautiful dogs but they weren't MY dog. Things are better now and they really feel like they belong to us and not just some dogs we are minding if you know what I mean.