dancinbcs
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I have known BC bitches to conceive from day 3 to day 27 so there is no such thing as a "normal" cycle.
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Having a Border Collie challenge you is not normal, outsmart you yes, challenge you no. One of the strongest breed traits is being biddable and willing to please so something isn't right. What you have described is not dominant behaviour either, more obnoxious brat with no manners. You really do need a qualified trainer or behaviouralist to assess what is going on because I think you are reading the signs wrong. Are the other dogs he is reacting to, other Border Collies? If not they are probably challenging him by staring at him and Borders hate that. They are a breed that usually prefer their own breed or at least other herding breeds and expecting them to play nice with all other breeds is asking for trouble. Some just don't like strange dogs getting in their face at all and prefer to stick to their own pack. The thing with the kids sounds more like a confused dog that isn't sure how to react to them. I used to have one that was very wary of under 5s, including my niece and she would attempt to snap at kids noses like she would at a stubborn sheep. When my niece turned 5 I took her for a walk with the dog on lead, allowed her to hold the lead and issue obedience commands. You could see the dog visibly relax as she realised this little creature was actually a person and she happily complied. They became best friends after that but I still never allowed that dog to be with kids too young to verbally control a dog because she just didn't understand what they were.
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Border Collies are very good at doing damage to themselves. Accidents and injuries are very common in puppies and young adults because they have no sense of self preservation. The puppy having to rest after a broken leg would affect the way the hips are growing and how tight the ligaments are that hold the hips. Lots of average vets like to diagnose HD in puppies if there is any laxity in the hips so they can do very expensive, so called "preventative" surgery when in fact the only way HD can be properly diagnosed at that age is by having PennHip x-rays done and having them sent off to a qualified reader. HD is normally not diagnosed by standard x-rays until a dog is 12 months old when the joints have finished forming and then the diagnosis can only be made by a specialist. Reputable vets may suggest the hips need to investigated by a specialist but they do not ever make the diagnosis themselves. If someone rang me and accused me of breeding a 5 month old puppy that had been diagnosed with HD by the local vet I would not be at all impressed or believe it. If the parents have good hip scores there is nothing much else the breeder can do. It is still possible to get bad hips from parents with good hips but is fairly unusual in registered Borders.
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Contact Dr Ann Neville at Sth Rd Animal Health in Bentleigh, Vic. She successfully treated my mast cell tumour dog with chinese herbs and he lived another 3 healthy years until he was nearly 14. He had no clear margins and my vets had given him a prognosis of no more than 6 months. Ann worked with my vets in Sydney by phone and sent the treatments up to me. Personally I will not use chemo on a dog. I have friends who have spent $8000 - $35000 on chemo, only to have ill dogs that didn't last a year. I have seen a lot more good results with cancer dogs using chinese medicine and it works out a lot cheaper with no side effects.
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An 11 year old bitch I bred was bitten by a red belly on the outskirts of Sydney last weekend. She thankfully has survived after a week in the vets and an adverse reaction to the antivenene. Her granddaughter survived after spending a week in the vets following a brown snake bite 6 months ago. Their owner has had a very expensive 6 months.
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I suggest you call the breeder, tell her what the vet said and ask her to recommend another vet that is experienced with Cavs to get a second opinion. She may even want to go with you to that consultation. Also use the phone call to confirm that the parents were not affected. If the parents were not affected and the puppy was fine when sold then that is all the breeder can do. Some breeders are very generous and will replace the puppy or offer one at a reduced price or occasionally offer a refund when things like this go wrong but they are not obliged to pay any vet bills. A lot of vets are very quick to blame breeders for everything. Luxating Patella is very common in all toy breeds and breeders can only make sure they breed from unaffected dogs and cross their fingers because there are no tests to determine what the genetics involved are. It is more to do with the size of the dog than anything else. Small dogs are prone to LP large dogs are prone to HD. I remember an idiot vet telling a puppy owner in my breed, where LP is extremely rare, that the breeder should pay for very expensive surgery. The breeder gave her the choice of 3 vets for a second opinion. The vet she chose, operated for about a third the original quoted cost and diagnosed a severe injury to the stifle joint with scar tissue built up that was preventing the patella from sitting properly. The puppy concerned was also more than 50% above her correct weight and the first vet never even mentioned that would have been the reason the injury didn't heal. Some vets are just so incompetant it is frightening.
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Our vets do my breed all the time without a GA and do great x-rays. Most dogs are fine but the odd one that squirms or struggles against them has to be knocked out.
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I thought 3 months was very optimistic with that diagnosis. It sounded like my girl last year and I let her go just a week after diagnosis. It is really tough to lose them that suddenly.
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Maiden Bitch And Breeder! Please Help
dancinbcs replied to The-Fat-Labrador's topic in Breeders Community
Sometimes maiden bitches miss for no particular reason. Whether they don't conceive or re-absorb, I have no idea but it seems to be quite common to miss the first time and conceive the next time. For this reason I recommend that maidens be mated to a local proven stud that can do a natural mating whenever possible. AIs, either fresh or frozen seem to have a much higher success rate in proven bitches. If you try again to the same dog and don't get a litter, there is also the possibility of incompatible lethal genes. Some combinations just don't work but either dog or bitch can be successfully bred to a partner from another line. Repro experts recommend that bitches have their first litter between 18 months and 3 years depending on the size of the dog. The larger the dog the later you leave it. Fertility drops with each season so a bitch with an 8 month cycle can be bred a lot older than one with a 4 month cycle. In Border Collies the first litter is usually around 2-3 but soem leave it until 5-6 and the last litter is sometimes as late as 8-9 years if the bitch has previously whelped with no problems. -
For other breeds they don't have to be sedated provided you get them scored by someone that doesn't require it. If you send them direct to the AVA they have to have had a GA but Wyburn never required it and neither does Rawlinson. Not sure about the others so check first if you plan to use anyone else.
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The one I use and recommend has no offlead time and no playtime. The owners are there to learn the basics of how to train a dog and the puppies are there to learn how to behave in the presence of other dogs and people. The last thing you want a potential show or obedience dog to do is want to play with every dog it sees. Learning to calmly accept the presence of other dogs is vital as is making sure the puppies are never frightened by another dog. At the end of 6 weeks the puppies can watch, come, sit, drop, heel, go to heel, put paws up on an object, get brushed, lie quietly on their side and bow.
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What is the gene involved? In any other breed bb is brown but depending on the standard it can be called red, chocolate, liver or brown. All bb dogs have brown noses and eyerims. It is however all the same gene even though the shade can vary. So is this just a darker shade of what is called red in a Dobe or is it black pigmented dog with a dark reddish brown coat of the colour known as seal in Bostons and Whippets? If it is then it is most likley caused by the aw wild sable gene and is completely different to a red. I have Border Collies and all colours are allowed elsewhere in the world. Here in Aust the standard simply contained the colours that the writers had at the time - black, choc and tri but dogs were registered as whatever colour they were and bred from. As people wanted new colours added they started to show them so blue, then red, then blue merle where added to the standard. There is no disqualifications in the BC standard and no mention that other colours are not allowed but the ANKC applied a blanket rule to all breeds to not allow colours not listed in the standard on the main register. This has now led to the ridiculous situation of state controls advising breeders to register dogs as the "nearest colour". In protest to this a friend registered a sable as red because reds where registered as sable before the term "red" was added to the standard. This was an outstanding quality puppy so I handled him at 2 specialties as a baby before he retired as a pet, just to let others see the colour. I did not expect him to be placed but just wanted people to see him. So in answer to your question. If the colour is genetically acceptable in the breed I have no problem with it being shown but if it is a disqualifying colour like a blue Wei, then I think they did the wrong thing. It is high time the KCs did a proper genetic overhall of the colours in breed standards for all breeds. They were written when no one understood colour genetics and so many make no sense.
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Does anyone know what got BIS 3 and 4?
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Wrong name on the Border Collie in the results here. It should be Gr Ch Tehya Twilights Fire ET.
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I have a dog that won't even taste them. Turns his nose up as if you are trying to poison him.
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It was me that turned my BC yellow and black with Blooms brand calendula tea, so do not recommend that brand if your dog is white.
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Try the vet Dr Karen Hedberg at North Richmond. She breeds Frenchies so knows more about the breed than most vets. I would also get him to a chiro first to get their opinion.
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Registration statistics
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In most litters there is usually only one or two puppies of good enough quality to be considered future breeding stock and put on main register. The rest should be limit registered to prevent a decline in breed quality. Some litters have none good enough and a few litters have several but it would be very rare to find an entire litter all of show/breeding quality unless it is a very small litter. Breeders that sell all puppies on main register usually don't know the difference between good, average and awful puppies. On the other hand, those that just breed and sell every puppy on limit are contributing nothing to the future of their breed, they are not true breeders but are just producing puppies.
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Dogs need to defecate after a meal and 9-12 hours later, depending on age. At 12 months she shoudl be able to go closer to 12 hours so you need to work on those times. Feed in the morning and at night about 10 hours before you get up in the morning.
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The only thing that might help at this stage is Traditional Chinese herbs. My friends and I have had several dogs live from months to many years after cancer diagnosis by just using the Chinese medicine. Sadly I lost my 10 year old girl suddenly last year but she only lived a week from diagnosis so we did't have enough time for the herbs to work. You need at least a month for it to start to take affect so if your girl has that long it is worth a try. As you are in Sydney try Lyn Pinosa at Alternative Therapies at Austral.
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Breed makes a huge difference. You know if a little dog charges that your dogs will not be torn to pieces or have bones broken but if it is a strong jawed breed these are definite posibilities. Breeds that have been bred to hunt and kill or fight to the death are much more dangerous to other dogs than soft mouthed dogs that have never been bred to bite anything other than food. With many breeds the outcome of a fight is lots of noise and spit but no real bites. Other breeds once aroused to fight are much more dangerous. Any dog that charges is not being friendly. It is an agressive act that most likely will lead to a fight. Any dog inclined to do it should never be off lead anywhere especially if it is strong enough to inflict real damage on another dog.
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The ANKC Regulations Part 6 The Register and Registration was not altered when the Allowable Colours listing was implemented, revised and repealled. Clause 6.2.4 still states - "The registration of White Boxers is NOT permitted on any register". Graham And I think you will find the same with the GSD. They simply WONT allow whites on the Register as it is "not recognised" is the term they like to use. And that decision is not even associated with any health concerns real or imagined. No, you can limit register any dog of any colour EXCEPT white Boxers. They are the only ones not allowed on any register.
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The strangest name I have come across is Cabbage for a Labrador, no idea why. Also heard of a cat called Whoopee - try calling that out from the back door at night and see what the neighbours think.
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A quick look through the DOL pointscore showed only one dog that was truly a 'plain' boxer. Most of them had at least two feet white well above the paw and some white on the face, and a lot of them had four stockings and white on the neck even if they didn't have the full or half collar. Genetically, that's flashy, although probably with some modifiers which may reduce the overall chance of fully white pups if bred to a really flashy, white collar, high stockings and face blaze dog (the genetics are not fully worked out for that). There was only one dog with a complete black face and white only on throat, chest, belly and toe tips, and it was a natural bob tail which is a whole other controversy :) You can breed flashy to flashy and get plain dogs. You can breed moderate flashy to moderately plain and get white pups. There's more than one gene involved, I think. Incidentally, to Espinay, I applaud what you said. I would like to see some things in boxers, but as I have chosen not to breed this particular breed I hope I confine my opinions to that only, and leave the harder decisions to those who actually do the job. It's not easy being a breeder, particularly if your breed has dilemmas attached, and I don't feel that my opinion should force boxer clubs in this case. It'd be nice to see some changes, but even that is not going to eliminate this particular issue in this breed and sometimes breeders will have to decide between two undesireable outcomes. That is something that will happen to any breeder for some reason or other - I have bred cats, and I've been through the dilemma of whether to euthanise a sickly kitten or treat and cause suffering which may not in the end save a life. A boxer breeder who has come to an ethical decision to euthanise white pups will not find me standing outside their door with a pitchfork and flaming torch, and neither will one who homes whites. I still don't understand why whites can't be limit registered, though! If you read the genetics info you will see the dogs with white chests and legs are sisi or plain, and the dogs with full collars are sisw flashy and these are the dogs that can produce swsw extreme white. Two sisi cannot produce white.