Chloes Dad

yes I do. I work from home, she is in at night, she is also inside when i go out, our fencing is secure, I know all of the dogs in the street, none are entire . and if I haven't seen her for three minutes I start looking he he

my breeder told me she was chocolate (she is black) and asked me if I was going to breed her. I dare say he is what we describe as a BYB. I guess i was fortunate in the circumstances that the dogs he was BYBing were both such high quality. I have since purchasing Chloe and finding DOL gotten in touch with both of her parents breeders... They have quite helpful I may ask their opinions Thanks

Thanks, will her behaviour be different? also have you noticed any physical differenced in the pet dogs that have been desexed in comparison to the entire show dogs?

Well I have heard enough about HD to be scared to death of it so if I am limiting her walking and looking at her diet from a HD point of view... to hold off on her desexing sounds like another area that I can minimise the possibility of HD. that was my thinking anyway what will her behaviour be like when she is in season? and what precautions must I take? as for the humping, she has been a bit more boisterous of late and is pushing the boundaries I assume it was a dominance thing so I gave her a big NO and walked her off for time out.

Timing of desexing is a vigorously debated issue. If you do a forum search on "Zink" you will run into an article by Dr Christine Zink which summarises her research and opinion on the timing of desexing for sporting dogs. In a nutshell she advises that it NOT be done before the age of 14 months. Obviously there are pros and cons to this and being able to keep a bitch appropriately secured during her season is a prerequisite. Most of the dog sports people I know well will follow Dr Zinks advice. I am going to see her at a seminar in Brisbane next month - I can't wait. Thanks Poodlefan! Great article. it suggests that early neutering. "before puberty" can slow the process of the plates closing. Therefore taller dogs (not shorter) and greater disposition to HD. It is backed up with studies and facts. Exactly what I wanted to see. I found the article here http://forums.dogzonline.com.au/index.php?...80131&st=90 on page 7 posted by Steve

Thanks for the reply Chloe is a female border collie If letting her come into season once is beneficial to her health and development I am willing to take on the responsibility which comes with that.

Yep we sure are. Agility maybe Flyball hopefully herding too (up to her ) I guess I just wanted to run it by the DOL community as I no longer take my vets advice on face value. I am confident no dog will get to her if it is better to wait yet if it is better to do it now than I also have no problem with that I just want to do what is best for her development and health

what age would she come into season?

I had a call from the vet today. they said I can book Chloe to be desexed anytime from now. she is 5 months old now. I am in no rush and I would like to do what is best for my dog. when is the best time. Also she humped my leg yesterday for the first time, came as a bit of a shock. any insight into this behaviour, it was during play

why do they always have those 90 techno raver soundtracks! :rofl:

WOW!! great work. such diversity. great music choice too verry fitting

My vet gave this to my 10 week old Border Collie!!!!, Until now I was not aware that it could be dangerous. and I did ask a lot the questions. What is the benefits. Does it prvide adequate protection. Is she old enough. The answer was that it is perfectly safe. He even went to another vet to confirm it was OK. Then me and the missus discussed it and we decided to go ahead. As it would save us having to remember to give it to her. So as a new pet owner who are you going to believe?? 99% of the population seek their pet advice from their vet. Who else do they have? Sure some have responsible breeders but I would say that most do not. Makes me very happy to have found DOL!!. I would have kept pumping her with that crap every year thinking I was doing the best for her I will be calling the surgery tomorrow and asking if they were aware that it could cause problems. I respected my vet! His ass is now fired!

Yeah i may have posted the wrong info...sorry. it does not mention Kennel Cough but they assure me it covers it. I think there are two varients one does and the one I posted doesent. So the heartworm shot is bad? why? thanks for that i am searching for it now.... EDIT TO ADD: found the info on the heartworm shot! they gave this to my pup at ten weeks at the same time as the Nobivac!! thanks for the heads up.

Oh. what does it leave out that C5 covers?. I just rang my vet and Nobivac covers distemper, hepatitis, parvovirus and Kennel Cough. she also had a seperate heartworm shot is there something else we need?

Ask your vet about Nobivac it is new to Australia. C5 is sooooo last year only 2 injections the second one is at ten weeks. wait one week and your pup will be FULLY covered at 11 weeks and ready for the world. nothing more until their 12 month booster edit to add some info. here is a link http://asia.intervet.com/products/nobivac_...uct_details.asp

WOW! about half way through she raelly gets going, freaked chloe out I love Border Collies little grunts and groans, rub thier belly and they cant help it.

http://www.whodaman.com.au/chloe/videos.html A star is born this is embarrassing look how goofy and proud I look ;)

Locked into the diary! ill be there! yes you have avery unique looking family (in a good way) Im sure i will spot you. Thanks!

Sounds like fun! where are the trials in 3-4 weeks? I would love to come and watch. Is there a website with a calander of events?

Chloe is always chewing on rocks, I wouldn't be too concerned if they do swallow and its too much for them they are pretty good at chucking stuff up, and I think a small rock will go right through...

I have been reading up on the triangle of temptation - the topic is pinned here http://forums.dogzonline.com.au/index.php?showtopic=64101 One of the many benefits is that it establishes Pack Hierarchy, Quote K9 Force It enhances the Alpha status of the person who commands the triangle, this can be anyone or every one in your home. It prevents rank issues both with human & dog pack members. It can be modified slightly to cure existing rank issues... End Quote I am beginning it with tonight's feeding, maybe it would help show your pooch who is boss?, I also suggest posting many more photos of her. They are such an amazing looking breed! and as pups they look so awkward in a cute way :rofl: Good luck

Kong is a brand of dog toy check out their website http://www.kongcompany.com/ The puppy one is just a bit softer for little teeth. You can fill them with all types of stuff, even freeze them. The website has a lot of recopies and suggestions. Love the knog! Keeps her busy for at least ten mins! :rolleyes:

chickens in australia do not have hormones in them # Are chickens fed hormones in Australia? Australian chickens are not fed hormones. Nor are they administered hormones in any other way. Their rapid growth occurs naturally due to selective breeding and optimal nutrition. Independent tests by the Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry, as part of the National Residue Survey, confirm that Australian chicken meat is free of added hormones. # Why do many people wrongly believe that chickens are fed hormones? We believe that one reason might be that people note that the chickens sold these days in supermarkets, butcher shops and chicken shops are much bigger than what they may recall them to have been 20 or 30 years ago. They may wrongly conclude that this must be the result of some unnatural intervention. The actual reason for this increased growth rate and size is the ongoing extensive selective breeding programs that have been adopted by the industry over the past 50 years, which aim for not only faster growing birds but also for healthier and more disease resistant chickens. the above statements are from the site below:~ http://www.chicken.org.au/page.php?id=150 Once again thanks, i will stop beating my drum(stick)

OH, Sorry I was under the impression that they were, so how do they get them so big so quick? is it the food they are fed? Thanks though and sorry for the bum steer people, It seems my above comments were false, im still not eating chickens tho. Just the way they are slaughtered is enough to get my vote.

off topic a bit, Is anyone worried about all the other stuff in chickens?, like growth hormones and anti biotics etc, I personally wont eat non organic chicken. I do give my dog a wing every two days but I pay more to give her something less tampered with. This is inside Inghams In Australia, the poor things can’t stand up they have grown so rapidly. http://www.kfccruelty.com/ausinvest.asp (warning graphic)