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and they are not easily intimidated, AND they are bossy ours rule the roost, I've had devons since the 70s and highly recommend them. No idea what to do about intros etc, or prey drive, sorry. It's never been an issue here.

oh how awful, not even safe at your own door. I've never carried anything, but a friend used to carry a travel hair spray. When she had to use it the attacking dog sneezed, spluttered etc. and choked on the smell so she was able to save her dog. I'd be frightened to take the dog out again too, esp since the dog has not been found I'm really sorry for your cocker, how frightening :p xxx

I thought the dog looked anatolian too, except the face was all one colour, not dark. maybe some are like this? If I read the article and did not know what breed it was meant to be, I never would have picked CAS. Even from the little snippets I know. IMO it's a bit irresponsible as the photo is a handsome looking dog, and the article almost makes you think of a guarding golden retriever. JMO.xx

Great post Cas. that's sort of what I thought going on what I've read myself about the breed. I ma have read tomuch into the article, but I thought it made them seem OK for almost any owner? lilli, the dog photo was of a tall, fairly lean, sandy coloured dog with a curled tail. That's the best I can do

Thanks, check it out, the dog looks more like an anatolian (but no dark muzzle) to me, but like I said, I do not know anything about these. Tell me what you think

Just wondered if lilli, Casowner anyone can enlighten me. I know nothing at all about CAS or CAO etc. but CAS are featured in this months Dog magazine so I flicked through it at the newagents to check it out. Is it a relevent article? Maybe someone who knows the breed could tell me? I was a little surprised that it was a 'promoted' breed, not because I dont like them (Casowners is GORGEOUS looking ) but I was under the impression that they are not for everyone (not that I've read the whole article). Nice to see a rare breed out there though, and the dog looked different to me, so are there several types of CAS? I guess central asia must encompass many types of shepherds? Thanks.xxxx

Are they ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The worst sulkers I've had have been sighthounds! They mke you PAY! IW4ME, I'm talking wolfies too!!

I know many people do give their dogs carrots, and the dogs enjoy them, but just a warning, my daughter has had to surgically remove carrots from dogs on a regular basis, large bits do a LOT of damage, block the bowel and can kill. I would not risk it, esp with a little pug. also, I would never leave something like that for a pup unsupervised, and even 'chews' often get stuck in the roof of mouths or in throats. I've had to pull bits out of even my big dogs mouths. My blue heeler regularly got hide stuck in the roof of her mouth as she was always far too FAST to chew (or not chew) them!

Hervey Bay. Only started about 2 months ago and they only do it first thursday of the month, trying it out. I'll go next time, our weather has been aand the viz HATES the cold, HATES it

we have rally o here now, but I've not tried it yet. Can't wait though

Playing sounds good. mine are OK with the 'wait' thing as it's normal, they have to wait for food, go in or out, get in and out of the car, gate etc. I had to teach them both self control at a young age, gun dogs can be rather silly and over the top.

I may be completely wrong but one of my dogs used to resource guard new toys and I would tell her off, she has not done it for years now. they also have to wait (TOT) before having the new toy. I'm not an expert so I could be miles off track, but it works for us. In my situation, I would not allow the guarder to have the toy to herself as she would end up really protective of it. I have 2 dogs and when we have new toys (apart from xmas and b'days) they get one toy between them, I taught them to have 'turns' (resource guarder has to wait, and vice versa) and then they play with it together. I can't afford to allow my guarder to get bossy, that's my job ;) hope it all works out, I'm sure it will. There are some great experts on here who would know what is best.

LOL, I'm probably completely wrong!! :rolleyes: as usual, lilli has an excellent and sensible post. HD can be in non breeding stock littermates who have not been tested, and this can go back years, so even testing through sires and dams with negative HD can never alleviate the risk completely. It can still turn up Hopefully over the years with testing, this will eventually not be passed on, eventually!

I have not lived in Adelaide for a while, but years ago we used to use the Animal Welfare League boarding at Winglfield, heated, indoores, large sleeping separate from exercise area, can be exercised alone or in a communal spot, HEAPS of paperwork to make sure EVERYTHING is covered. we took our cats and dogs there, all were very happy and well on our return. Lots of gates/doors so no one would ever escape, and don't worry it's not near the refuge (I thought :rolleyes: someone will adopt my babies!) so no problems there. I've never had ours in kennels here (16 years) as none of them are any good ;) in one, both dogs and cats escape regularly

No idea what I'd do in your situation :rolleyes: I'm pretty sure I know the breed you are after and it's also a favourite of mine and I think would be very popular if there were more around, so maybe you could import, bring in new blood etc. I was thinking of importing a few years ago, bracco Italiano, as I adore them and luckily for me, a wonderful ethical lovely breeder DID bring one in and she is just as lovely as I thought, so I'm hoping ONE DAY ...... I don't understand breeders not doing health checks. Of course something like HD can come from anywhere in the animal's ancestry and testing is no guarantee, but the more testing done and history and records available, the better for all dogs and owners. I wish you luck and a positive outcome and hope you have success with gaining your dream breed.xxx

I'll have to run out and get a couple, my guys are all rugged up and I have 4 cats and 2 dogs competing for laps, even though our heating is on amypie, is that Kyzer in the agility pic??

Surely not!! None of Bundy's bits could possibly be ugly I feel bad 'cos I've NEVER felt guilty, even OH had to be 'done' ;) It's a prerequisite at our place, you enter, you lose your bits (me too!) I've not heard of anyone feeling guilty about it before xxx

i agree with all the other advice, but this is what I was going to say. So many people give up on dogs, esp before they are 2 yrs or so, simply because they expect the dog to behave like the 8 year old dog down the road Patience patience patience, and please, be NICE

Found

I've emailed and 'facebooked' everyone. Awful, will do anything I can, we are only an hour away. Let's hope it was someone who thought they were lost and picked them up to take them to the relevent authorities. Fingers crossed xx

Terribly sad, awful news :D ;)

Bob Irwin's dingo watch Anne-Louise Brown | 7th June 2010 Bob Irwin. THE PLIGHT of the Fraser Island dingo is an emerging priority for Bob Irwin, the renowned conservationist has revealed. Mr Irwin, father of legendary crocodile hunter Steve, says he is disgusted by the “atrocity” that is the treatment of Fraser Island's dingoes. He said he could understand why such stringent regulations were in place to limit human contact with the native dogs, but described the laws as “heavy-handed”. “Nobody should have to walk past an animal that's starving and the Fraser Island dingos are emaciated,” he said. “I don't like to see any animals disfigured or starving and a solution has to be found.” Mr Irwin, 70, is recovering from a heart attack last March, an event that prompted him to take stock of his life. He said his major focus now was promoting environmental conservation and caring for sick and injured wildlife at his home. For him dingoes are natural scavengers and should be allowed to walk the beaches feeding on fish frames and other waste. He said feeding stations could be an option but that would only be as a last resort. “The dingoes didn't create the problem, humans did. “One thing that also disturbs me is the tagging of the dingoes. It folds their ears over and affects their senses. “It's a man-made disfigurement.” He said it was vital the dingoes remained on the island and, if a breeding program was introduced, that it took place there. “I'm not in favour of animals being removed from their habitat. “Fraser Island dingoes belong on Fraser Island.” Mr Irwin was adamant most Australians did not realise how terrible the country's environmental record was. “We've got to clean up our own back yards before we start telling other countries what is right and wrong,” Bob said. “I think whaling is abhorrent, but it is very hypocritical for the Australian government to tell the Japanese to stop whaling when in Australia, we support the world's largest wildlife slaughter, the kangaroo industry. “We need to go back to the earth and start to take responsibility so there is still gorgeous wildlife for future generations. “Animals have just as many rights as we do

we had pure ones around us in NT. they never even looked at our dogs, always very intent on hunting walllabies. the ones on Fraser are pure, lovely. Malteseluna, yes the culling really stuuffs up the whole pack eco system of the elder dogs teaching the young dogs. Awful. IT is also said that fraser dingoes are not starving (they are) and the govt has it's own articles stating that one of the reasons they cull the dingoes there is because there is not enough natural prey so why the hell don't they just say, yes these animals have no food!!! When the aboriginals and then the foresters etc. did fire management over there, it rejuvinated the habitats of undergrowth etc. where the smaller prey once lived in large numbers ie bandicoots and wallabies. Now they :D are practically extinct on fraser as are most other mammals. God only knows what is left for the dingoes. not much at all. Years ago there were never any attacks on humans there and there were many aboriginals and workers on the island. Now if a dingoe looks at someone the wrong way, it is shot, and so are any others nearby. :rolleyes:

Lambo are you in QLD? There are 2 lovely rescue dogs on page 48 of the , sunday mail, Remmy a cattle dog lovely with kids and dogs, loves a ball etc. and Tish a shepherd kelpie cross who is already obedient, good on a lead, quiet and well behaved. :D (just a thought ;) )xxx excellent post sparky, I dont believe any dog is 'dumb' just misunderstood. Some sighthounds(wolfhounds) we've had have been called dumb ;) because they dont leap to attention and do 'tricks' quickly etc. All I can say is OMG! they are so clever ;) it's scary! They are independent thinkers and very very clever.

Poor dingoes. Bob Irwin is helping the Fraser Is dingoes. :D I saw a lovely dingo dead on the Bruce highway a couple of weeks ago I could go on and on on this subject as I've thoroughly investigated it from a scientific view re journals etc. government documents and it's interesting reading to say the least. Breeding and releasing dingoes is not a good idea however, that is if someone really is doing it. Dingoes have specific territories and an adult dingo will 'teach' the pups where this territory is and they will stay within it and not take kindly to intruders. The problems often come about when these adults are killed and younger dogs lack the knowledge of territory and may venture into other areas. I'm sure they don't differentiate between livestock, pets or prey. We seem to expect them to though.