GSD

No they are much rougher than that. Much much rougher. Thats nothing for these guys. They bark, growl and launch at each other as if it's a dog fight ring. No blood has ever been drawn but they are rougher than what you call as play

I highly doubt that sending them to a puppy school will solve the problem of them fighting. They may get toilet trained but I think their fighting has much to do with the breed's temperament that is rather hostile towards other dogs (http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/pomeranian.htm). The fact that both of them are male causes doesnt help either. It is the dominant/playful puppy Lou Lou that starts most of the fights. He goes and bites Ko Ko's tail or growls at him or takes his toys and thats when Ko Ko who is normally quiet gets pissed off and the fights starts (Thats a typical scenario but there is more to it. They even fight over nothing) We would like to establish the pack structure so that the less dominant puppy (ko ko) becomes the boss and the other follows him. Does feeding one before the other help to establish that structure or there is more to it?

They are old enough to have their second vaccination. So it would be around 3 months or so if I'm not mistaken. The area they have in the backyard is even better than what they would get inside. It is not hot at all since it is under the shade and the building blocks the sunlight. It's a nice cool area that is normally used to have a cup of tea. Perhaps cooler and better venitlated than inside the building. The fence that is around them gives them a large area and they have plenty of toys and fresh water and there are no bugs around to bother them. They are very happy with their place, they would prefer to be there even when we bring them inside. My girlfriend also spends a lot of time with them either playing or training them. Perhaps 5 hours per day and I don't think many people around here are able to spend 5 hours per day with their dogs and it should be understood that you can't be with your pets 24/7 or else not many people would have any pets. We didn't expect them to sit there and stare at each other. In fact we bought them both so that they would play with each other and form a happy small pack. But they are not playing. They bark and attack each other either over toys or a mere bite and it happens almost all the time. How does crate training help to stop them fighting? I'm looking for a way to establish a relationship between these puppies so that they won't fight as much as they do now. I have seen little dogs play but these guys don't play they fight. It is obvious to me since they growl and bark really loud and then attack each other. Fortunately they don't hurt each other but the fighting has to stop.

I didn't buy them myself my girlfriend did. The first one Ko Ko Just had his second vaccination about a week ago and he is older than the second one by 2 weeks. How old does it make him to be? I believe they are both around 2 to 3 months old no more than that.

Hmmm I believe they come from registered breeders but I have to confirm that one. Their fights is nothing like playing. I have seen little dogs play and bite each other here and there but these guys are surely fighting. They bark A LOT and they do kind of attack each other and bite etc... Is there anything we should do to at least reduce it? Is it a good idea to feed one before the other to establish one of them as the boss and the other would follow for the most part? Are the collars I mentioned a good idea to supress barking and noise? Yes we do live in Sydney and it would be cool if you could tell us the address or phone number of some vet with reasonable prices. Does desexing solve the problem?

We bought a male Pomeranian puppy about a month ago and named him KoKo. He has a very quiet/shy/lazy cuddly type peronality and although my girlfriend dedicated a lot of time looking after him, he could not be left alone at all or else he would be crying. We thought it's not fair for him to be alone and that it would be a good idea to get him a playmate so we bought another male Pomeranian puppy that we named Lou Lou (I'm not too sure about the spelling) and this one had a kind of dominating/very playful type personality. They are both around 8 weeks or so now (Ko Ko is about 2 weeks older than Lou Lou) and ever since they have been together they have been fighting and barking at each other almost all the time except for the times that (surprisingly enough) they sleep right next to each other. At first the problem was toilet training and although we were not succeful at it we managed to allocate a large portion of backyard that is confined by small wooden walls so that if they do their stuff it would not be so hard to clean it and they basically live in that area and have a doggy house in there etc... (The area is covered so sunlight doesn't bother them and they always have access to fresh water) They don't seem to have any problems with where they are but they do seem to have a lot of problems with each other. Either early in the morning or late at night or during the day they bark and fight almost all the time. What should we do? Are those collars that suppress the barking a good idea to at least keep the noise levels down? What is the best approach in this kind of situation? We considered desexing them but it's going to work out very expensive for two puppies and they are not even old enough to be desexed. What can we do? How can we train them to be more friendly and fight less and don't bark so much...