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Is the dog distressed at all? scratching, panting, hotter to touch, lying on cool surfaces, not eating..... does there seem to be any swelling around her eyes/mouth/neck/ear flaps? If you think she IS uncomfortable- then the emergency clinic would be able to recommend an anti histamine for her, perhaps... If not- then put something cool on her belly...and if you have any NON/LOW acid vitamin C..give her a human dose of that . It MUST be the low or NON acid one tho- anything else may upset her tummy even more Vit C can act as a natural antihistamine if it is an allergy

VET ASAP. I can't figure out why the vet advised giving the tablets when it seems there is an allergy???? Poor little thing.

Oh...

Is there any way the ivermectin and anaesthesia agents could have reacted, causing heart failure?

Don't know how 'common' it is. Sorry I guess it happens, tho. What was the cause of death? heart? Lungs? Bleeding? Seizure? Sometimes dogs have problems which aren't always visible....

Oh so sorry.....

if you don't have anything else- you can use stingose spray/wipes NOT ON OPEN WOUNDS. The ingredient in that is the same as in de-ter, the spray which is used to stop animals eating gardens/fruit etc. I find it works very well... one lick, and a funny face, and then they leave it alone. Yes, I have tasted/tested it... it kind of makes your tongue go all funny.... I have also used it when my mouse was trying to demolish part of her cage...and it worked for her too

jaybeecee- hope the boy had a good night, and is ok today.

If the crate is a tight fit- I would NOT leave the dog in it for hours on end he wouldn't be at all happy or comfortable- and the E collar would rub and vibrate on the crate walls...making noises from which the dog couldn't escape....

Good example We used to call it "intelligent DISobedience", in Guide Dog days - where a person with a GD attempts to step off a Kerb, or walk along a footpath, and the dog will NOT let them move because of perceived danger from oncoming traffic, or other obstacle. This was taught, but 'improved upon ' by the dogs as they worked and learnt .

Hi- The ideal for you and your dog would be a trainer there with you, to SEE what your dog is doing, explain to you WHY, and then HELP you remedy the unwanted behaviours. If you tell us where you are (city, or area) Someone will probably recommend someone reliable to you.

which perhaps is not ideal- rubbing on the fresh wound/stitches could irritate it , or introduce dirt bugga! Where is the wound?

Can you either leave him with someone, take him to work, or have someone stay at your place? (or leave him at the vets) I tend to use a soft basket muzzle instead of those darn collars these days- but NO WAY could you leave a dog alone with a muzzle on!!!

I wouldn't leave him unsupervised with a protective collar on:( There are way too many mistakes he can make which may scare him.

sometimes, yes- other times, they will deliberately stop being complete and utter fools, and realise that sitting quietly gets them some praise/attention Well, that's how it happens here

Ok Taken this bit to quote...whilst just doing the dishes I was thinking.... Humans do something for another human to PLEASE the recipient of whatever is being done. Fine... How do we KNOW the recipient is pleased? They smile, they say ,thankyou, they may hug us, or jump for joy.... all very visible signs which are the 'giver' /doer's' REWARD Is this then SO different from a dog sitting quietly, because it thinks that by doing so we will say "good dog", or pat it, or some other tangible reward? ..........thinking.... but cannot find the right word combinations *goes back to thinking*

Hmmm.. So- a dog doing something for praise (ie: owner is pleased, and communicates this thru praising the dog) where does this fit? I once had a dog who, at 3 years would only work sheep because she was told- because it was what I wanted her to do. She wouldn't do anything off her own bat... just what she was ordered to. no more, no less. Provided commands were given for every action, she was a very handy dog (for me only) left to her own devices, or without direction.. no response, no 'instinctual herding/chasing'... I chose to believe then, that she did it to please me- altho I guess it was both to avoid any harshness, and to gain praise This was a looong time ago- when I was fresh out of school...

OK. Sooooo It is YOUR JOB to now convince him ,that by doing as you ask- he gets to play with his own fantastic, super duper ball with squeaks, or treats, or ropes or whatever he absolutely adores!!! When he learns that, by pleasing you, he gets a REWARD of ball play to the max, then he will be willing to 'earn' his obsession..his focus will be on YOU, as provider of balls and excitement!! Honest- this can only be remedied by YOUR being the more exciting option!

yep... keep him on a lead!! Only run him free where there no other dogs. Teach him "give". Use his ball as a reward for excellent behaviour- including recalls, tricks, etc. Always pack a ball into your bag when walking him.. a squeaky one ,maybe- or one of the tug attached ones :D That way , you have something to offer him when he does return..NEVER chase him!! By the way--- he's not 'bad'...just very smart!!

Was he indoors or out whilst you were away? Sounds as if he was badly scared by something... IMO, you would be better to NOT fuss over him , especially when he is acting fearful- as this rewards him for being that way :D Just go about your daily routine... and reward him for good 'brave' behaviour Don't force him indoors, either...

and , you say she is still bouncy and drinking, and comfortable otherwise? Think about it..... is she doing EXACTLY the same as on eating days? Playing.... the way she is lying down... the way she drinks.... all fine?

Just noticed she is "still doing number twos" A kind neighbour couldn't be feeding her ??? Maybe?? Whilst it's odd behaviour- as long as she is PERFECTLY normal except for the eating, I wouldn't panic...

Stop trying to tempt her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If she is bouncy ,and drinking,and toileting... leave her be. She will eat when she's hungry :D If, however she is looking longingly at the food- but is unwilling to eat- or any other odd behaviour- then vet ASAP. Our working dogs will often not eat for a couple of days- if it's hot weather, or they are working very hard and long... they will drink only, until they are ready.

which is really tricky when there are young kids The adults may well be doing all the right things at the most appropriate times- but little kids cannot get the timing right, OR understand the reasoning behind it