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Hope all is well. So- I am wondering if you left the pup home alone? From what you wrote earlier.. if it were my pup- there is no way I would have left her home alone... just in case of more serious happenings...

That would also be a concern here as well...

ermmm if she is groggy and very swollen- I would be off to the vet! There could be damage there that was not discovered earlier , or she could need some other treatment. :p If she is suffereing after the blood loss- she needs at least to be drinking lectade or something..chicken soup (no salt) or mince made into a slurry.. or low lactose milk with an egg whisked in it...poor little thing.

good news!

Sounds as if you are taking charge again - That's good! You can love him and talk to him all you like................... providing he has done more to earn it than gaze at you and demand cuddles :p

You are an indulgent owner who let those horrible brown puppy beagle eyes lead you astray!! You now need to go right back to basics. Toilet training from the beginning... obedience training EVERY day.. for 5-10 minutes. also- please read THIS carefully, and think about starting it

'OFF!' with no 'please' attached

make sure he is eating well.. and yes, watch his poo for the next few days. ANY sign of him being uncomfortable or 'off.. contact the vet. How much did he eat? 1/2 cm. ,3 cm, ??.... if it's a tiny piece it should sail straight through.. glad you have now learnt a lesson .no zips, buttons, ties anywhere near pups

aaahhh.. You are doing the best thing She can enjoy her time without the problems caused by more interference (treatment)..and you can enjoy having her around while you adjust to the thought of life without her.

oh _ wondered why they didn't check back in ...

Hamlet had 'cold tail' once--- but it didn't visibly swell.. it just was very painful ..and unable to wag.. If your girl is licking- then perhaps it is something else? hamlet didn't attempt to lick or anything... Hopefully she will sleep

I have seen some dogs do this- they are slow and careful eaters, not hoovers ;)

If he is a large breed pup - I would suggest he doesn't get fed chicken necks..esp as he doesn't chew ;) I worry about chicken necks getting stuck :p feed him turkey necks/wings instead ;) bigger ,and if you freeze them.. MUST be chewed! ;)

You can try putting his kibble in a treat ball....... then only a few come out at a time or you can change him over to B A R F ..and then he MUST chew his meat/bones :D

I think a pen is a good idea. provided it is more than just netting/posts the plan is to make a pen such that the pup has NO chance of escaping. At all. No way. That usually means floor/roof /walls sunk into the ground- whatever... because......if pup does discover he can dig/chew/climb/barge out....just once....then NEXT time, he will try harder..and so on! The pen also needs to be his favourite spot Nice bed, some shade, somewhere to dig- stuff to play with... and , getting in early... a dog which sleeps inside, and is around its family often will usually be MUCH calmer, and will not tend to bark at night noises, annoy the neighbours, and invite nasty comments

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If you have him on lead inside- attach it to YOU- that's the idea.. so you are aware of when he needs to go. Tying him to his bed won't achieve much in the way of training- which is what he needs

There is good discussion HERE which may help

and it won't work pups live in the moment. Unless you catch them actually pooing- save your breath. the pup will have NO idea what you are doing- it will just seem like bullying to him yes, he will look 'guilty'..but that is just a reaction to being told off... You may well need to start toilet training again properly ( take pup out every hour, or couple of hours and wait until he does something,then praise him a lot, keep him on lead inside so you know what he's up to... and clean the messes with an enzyme based cleaner ..most other stuff does not remove the smell..so pup goes back there) there are lots of toilet training threads in puppy problem forum

He's only a baby- he doesn't know about these things yet Instead of peanut butter- use mince poke a chicken wing in the kong Don't expect him to sit & play with it for more than a few minutes tho- he just can't focus for too long

Two Spirit- how much time has your boy spent 'free' and exploring by himself as a baby? perhaps he missed out on a lot of the baby mouthing/tasting/smelling stuff, and is now trying to do it all? I would not advise the constant 'leave it' stuff... esp. as he has not mastered it yet... makes life miserable for everyone yeah- I was mortified when I had to do it with Hamlet (post surgery to remove sticks etc ) BUT - after a short time- he was much more interested in sniffing, running and playing, than constantly searching for, and eating stuff. result? much more relaxed owner, and dog. Mind you, he was not under 12 months... and still had plenty of chew time with meaty bones/kongs/etc.... and when he grew some brains, and was a bit more settled the muzzle was not needed much I do still use it if we have had visitors who may have thrown away BBQ bones etc- or there is new junk lying around....

aah.. here's a trick you may want to try..tho it may annoy the heck out of you :D What I have done with pups is get one of these- It's called a ROD BELL..and is a little round bell - like the ones in pet toys/on collars but on a flexible spring- with a clip. It is VERY sensitive to movement. I used to attach them to the pup's collar and after a short while, you get to know exactly what the pup is doing- by the sound the bell makes it is also useful at night. handy for praising/correcting, cos you can tell if pup is scratching/eating/running, whatever..even if you are not watching! The other thing I can think of is that , whenever you go out..have a special toy- one he LOVES..and that is only for outside..he gets it as you go out the door, perhaps? Does he enjoy kongs? Iceblocks? Does he actually EAT stuff, or just play with it? thinking maybe , because ,when he does it you come running, and check him out, and talk to him... maybe he enjoys the attention. Have you done T O T with him, to get his attention on YOU before he gets his food/toys? The other think - if you feel it is compulsive..ie: if it's the first thing he does when he's outside..is try him with a basket muzzle when he's not actually being walked on lead/played with .... I still use one with hamlet on occasion..he will eat anything resembling food- whether old bones, fat dripped on the dirt... Hope someone can help you out- it is a worry, I know! edit to add- the 'leave it' command, or in my case a loud 'YUCK'.. is ok.. but for a constant ,driven ,Hoover.. it soon loses its appeal

Hey, seven- I have never used a crate to train a pup... but I have done so with April, my piglet :D She is now 4 mths old- and is toilet trained. She slept in the crate alongside my bed- if she squeaked, I'd take her outside... Same in the Kitchen .When she was inside.. she was in the crate most of the time..and if she sqeaked- it was outside, toilet, and back in for a play/feed, then crate again. No accidents on the floor... she is very happy to run into her crate/pen...and doesn't mind at all being on her own. i know- not a dog.. but similar IF I lived in a city again, and not in the bush... and had a puppy - a crate would definitely be on the list of must-haves. When your pup is desexed...the crate means that there is no running around unsupervised When you have to duck out in a hurry..pup goes in crate with a toy...safe and sound . When you have kids to visit, and don't want pup to be overwhelmed/over excited.. pup goes in crate, and kids are taught that puppies NEED time alone- and the crate is a kid-free zone!! I do not approve of leaving a pup crated for long periods while someone is at work.. that seems cruel.puppies need to run and explore and dig... A secure, roofed, pen outside , with good shelter, is a great idea!

Corvus- you have lots to share, and obviously are keen to learn ,and to discuss.. and I enjoy hearing the 'harey' tales , having had wild things in my home as well.. Must admit tho,as a lazybones, I often find your posts seem too wordy for me to concentrate on properly. The discussion can be flying along...and by the time I read it all, and think about it... the 'conversation' has taken another turn, and I'm lost ! sorry

I would be giving them treats separately... until they grow some manners