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there was an explanation/photo in your first thread Trouble with fence jumping is ..that once it has happened, you can bet that whatever they find is MUCH more exciting than the same boring stuff they smell/ see every day at home ..that they do it again...and again...

I am so pleased to hear you have made the decision to take away his pain. The next couple of days will be bittersweet , but you can spoil him ,and tell him you love him ..and make him as happy as you can :D Do you have any painkillers or anything which will keep him pain/itch free for a few days? Thinking of you - it will be a very hard time . The quick and confident diagnosis is because the Derm. sees skin all day everyday- he sees things which many general vets maybe will never experience- and so not know what to look for Take care ...

..and perhaps a different vet?

I still think a vet visit would be the first step..however I remembered once when I was looking after very valuable shedded sheep- and one wouldn't eat! I resorted to rescue Remedy Put a few drops on his gums... then a couple minutes later, offered food .To my surprise, he ate ! I had to do this a few times a day for a couple of days .. but it worked . No appetite- RR- eat something ! Don't ask me why ...but perhaps it will help Indie?

I would strongly advise a vet check . if he is lethargic and apathetic- he needs to have bloods etc done . he 'may' be fretting, but the stress of losing Bonnie may have lowered his immubity, and he may now be ill with who knows what ... Vet first- then a behaviourist, if his physical self is OK. meanwhile- perhaps cut down on the exercise? Fasting and working out are not a good combination for anyone

I just went back & checked... found the description of your dog and would suggest that if she does get out and get picked up for roaming/attacking /harassing - you may have trouble with her breed I D . You also did get lots of advice in your first thread- but have not said if you tried any of it ? (or did I miss that bit:o)

I hope it's GOOD fencing - underground/very high,or roofed ..and chew proof material Having them in th e house together is just not fair on either one , and difficult for you. A full male constantly exposed to bitch scent everywhere he walks is going to find being calm and ignoring his instinct very difficult.

Oh NOT what you wanted to hear...however, at least now you know what is happening. I am so sorry, and will be hoping that they can keep him comfortable . sending thoughts ....

*nods* ours do that

I hope the owners are sensible ,and do NOT now advertise her as 'free to good home' I feel it is likely, seeing as now they know/think she could be a problem... and I think you said she is not desexed? :/ You did what you could ,and need to keep your pets/kids safe.

I wouldn't say that at all.. it's more that this dog is more than you are equipped to assess/handle- and she needs to be properly surrendered/assessed/dealt with...and not 'rehomed' Just now make sure that she is legally yours to pass on/surrender! You did this with the right intentions ...

You need experienced help. being kind hearted doesn't solve everything, unfortunately ..and some behaviours/problems need the big guns.

poor little fella.Have you had his health checked? if he has been checked and no physical cause has been found- then he may be reacting to the changed environment ...

Perhaps get in touch with a rescue group , and do it all formally? Pop into the rescue threads on here - maybe someone can help?

Thanks folks, it's hard. Tonight is the first night that Mum's room is silent and dark ...For the past few years there was a bright night-light on, and always the radio went all night.... I left both on for Tiy,as well, but have now turned everything off. dammit!

Fearful aggression is not an easy one . Poor Bindi is very overwhelmed, stressed and feeling the need to defend. Whether it will improve or not is best left to a professional . I think an assessment is in order - THEN work out if there is a program which may help. I couldn't do that to one of my dogs

I think perhaps it is dangerous for YOUR animals to have this dog in your house No ideas on how to curb her prey drive .... sorry.

This sounds a confusing setup - he is not allowed into your room, but sleeps in there? Why not have him in your room and the cats in the lounge? he has cats in the house, but they are not allowed to meet? Do your cats have a nice enclosure where they can be when he's outside, if you want to separate them? Unfortunately, you have started off with him on the bed That is now where he thinks he should sleep.If you now crate him, and he screams/yells/gets anxious..it is not his fault ... he knows his bed is your bed I suggest you put the crate where you want it ..and GRADUALLY get him used to it - feed him bones in it..play with him in it - make it a GREAT place to be !!

Crate for the bedroom The cats and he will have to meet at some stage, won't they?

Is he interested at all ? Does he try to eat and stop? If he is not interested in the food- and won't try a mouthful- I'd be back to the vet

The end of an era. Tiy was born around 13 years ago... supposedly to be a star worker. At 4 weeks old, she managed to find the kitchen door (from outside), knocked on it to come in..and she went & sat under Mum's chair. That was that. She was fiercely protective of anything 'hers' - including us. yes, she would snap at /bite intruders. She was fantastic to have around here,in the isolation. She was never really great with other dogs - but was fine with cats/chooks ,and anything else. She lived solely for her people. When I was working, she would not move from the back gate until I came home - rain, hail ,or shine. When Mum was away in hospital.. she would look at Mum's chair... Recently she suddenly aged, became more short tempered, started dragging the legs, and became incontinent. The last few nights, she barked and barked from her bed. Today the decision was made, and carried out. She had a nice morning - eating bones,and dentasticks,and liver treats, out in a patch of sun..then a ride in teh 4WD. I will miss her. I hope she finds Mum quickly.

Vet visit - sounds as if she is dribbling urine .. poor old girl.

IF she is very constipated, liquid faeces will sneak past ..and yes, she will strain, because of a hard dry mass stuck there Vet check is my suggestion ....and if all ok- then feed her a diet with lots of fluid to help move the food on down. A gentle bulker/lubricant is psyllium husk .. soaked before feeding it forms a gel, which both provides some mass,and protects the bowel.... it is gentler than grain fibre or vegetables... IMO...and they only need a little bit :D Poor old girl

Agreed- if he will get excited for a hug, or a treat , or an ear scratch - then why does he have to tug? I have never trained dogs for competition ...but have trained dogs to work sheep, guide dogs, and pets , and have never played tug with any of them P'raps they have been neglected ...

Oh.my.lord.