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How exciting/frustrating/challenging this time will be :) I totally agree with going to see different breeds in the flesh ! also have you read about breeds in THIS THREAD :) it may be useful . The point about an adult dog is a valid one .... :)

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trouble is, if you do buy the dog ..then that leaves them free to get another cute puppy ....

Tricky . You are allowing someone else's dog into your home . Someone else's dog - potentially unvaccinated . Someone else's dog - who now will seek out the life you have shown her .....and , even if you never have her inside again , will try and try to get there. You have only good intentions - I know - The next doors may now think having a dog is even easier- cos the neighbour will take care of it ... It is really unfair on this dog to now just block access ..and not ideal to have someone else's dog at your place - Rock :Hard place . hope it all ends well ...

gorgeous boy! Glad he has been found and will be back home :) :)

saw it heaps years ago ... saw lots of surgeries , lots of recoveries, lots of happy dogs & owners :)

may I just say that - if you need to chase your dog around a room for anything , some recall training may be a useful tool ;) being picked up and put into the laundry is obviously not pleasant ..and each time it happens just reinforces her idea that bedtime = unpleasant things . One suggestion is that she gets a tasty treat..something VERY special ... that she adores, but gets only at bed time . a chicken/turkey wing ? A few cubes of cheese? half a frankfurt, in cubes ? a half slice of bread spread with peanut butter ? Our dogs would almost jump off a cliff into a fire for peanut butter . Associate it with cuddles & relaxation first .... then if she LOVES it , and will sit/come to you eagerly ..then show it to her and be all pleasant and rewarding for going to bed. Just my 2 C worth...

Oh..I misread ..I thought you wanted to know WHEN he was 4 weeks sorry. saw the photo :) looks as if he won't be really scruffy ... just my opinion . The breeders, being first time ..may not have noticed the very long toenails ;) pups and mum are usually more comfy if nails are clipped a bit ... It's a cute face :D

photo didn't show ... what are others like from the breeder? It would be just about impossible to tell you exactly .. why is 4 weeks your target age? For photos, or ?

I would advise another vet ,perhaps, a sample of the discharge taken and identified- so that then, hopefully , the correct treatment can be found .... if the condition has not been named - then any treatment is only for symptoms ......

I think a bit more detective work needs to be done ,as you have had two dogs with similar symptoms ..... Breeding /feeding/ bathing/ things used around the home - insecticides,cleaning stuff,bedding. Garden - mulch,fertiliser,sprays . vaccinations/heartworm treatment , etc . Are there things in common ?

will she eat stronger smelling food like roo? Try her with some nature's gift , as well. Sardines? beef heart ? don't mix anything else in , or make a big deal of it , and just use one thing at a time . If she just eats meat and some bone for a little while it won't hurt her . IF she gets into the habit of eating ..THEN start adding things like veges ....? if she eats chicken wings--- try her on turkey wings as well. Chicken with bone in is not a bad meal at all :) I'm wondering if her sense of smell not working may be part of it? *wonders why a breeder would pass on a puppy who was not eating properly*

My Kieran( deerhoundX) was B I G and brindle ..and adults would do a detour around him ..whereas kids would gravitate to him ...

;) that'll do it for a lot of people!

Dear KF's friend :) I for one am looking forward to reading about your new companion (and seeing photos ;) ) It was so nice to see a post from you.

he,he ..we have multiple dogs which makes BIG difference - BUT our pups race inside..look for food ..grab a toy, & mostly race outside again ....

Depending on her worrywart status - My consideration would be that a puppy is kinda unknown .An adult's temperament /physical state can be seen before it lives with a new owner ...

So dealing with the OP's question, you never trained out an unwanted behaviour. Rather, you trained in the one you wanted. Best possible approach but not what the OPs question is asking. How would you have dealt with an experienced sheep chaser? yes. Good planning!

I love Groenendals ....have known those that are themselves anxious and wary ...research would find solid temps though . :)

of course rotties are favoured ;) this boy belongs to a friend ...

:( how tragic.

Black or Brindle are the "scaries" , I've found ....

Rottie or Black lab :)

Expectation of food may increase the arousal , too .... ??