Janba

The other thing you need to consider is the actual act itself. Can you accomodate visiting bitches safely if they are not local? Do you have someone to help with mating if you do have a bitch staying? Do you have a good stud master handy if you have problems with a mating? Its not just a matter of throwing 2 dogs into the backyard and seeing what happens.

Me too I have owned several entire males and females and have never had a dog hump anything except when allowed to do a mating. Maybe it is a breed thing because I have never had heard of anyone with this problem in Border Collies. I am the same - none of my male dogs has humped things - entire and used or desexed males. Maybe it is a working dog thing but I really feel it is how you manage your males.

Am I so glad that my boys never hump things.

Even the smooth coated BCs have a double coat more like the coat you see on a labrador or german shepherd. You do see the rare ones with a very fine coat but not very many. Smooth coated BCs still need the water/weather proofing a double coat gives and still shed the coat the same way the long haired ones do.

I've never seen a poodle with a herding title, at least not in this country as they are not an eligable breed. Why? Under ANKC regulations the eligable breeds are Group 5, plus Bernese Mountain Dog, Canaan Dog, Keeshond, Kerry Blue Terrier, Norwegian Elkhound, Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier, Tibetan Terrier, Standard Schnauzer, Giant Schnauzer and Rottweiller. All breeds who have a history of herding. It is much like gundog trials are restricted to gundogs. Samoyed Sorry forgot the Samoyed and I even train herding regularly with a couple

I've never seen a poodle with a herding title, at least not in this country as they are not an eligable breed. Why? Under ANKC regulations the eligable breeds are Group 5, plus Bernese Mountain Dog, Canaan Dog, Keeshond, Kerry Blue Terrier, Norwegian Elkhound, Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier, Tibetan Terrier, Standard Schnauzer, Giant Schnauzer and Rottweiller. All breeds who have a history of herding. It is much like gundog trials are restricted to gundogs. Still doesn't explain why. History of herding, so what? Doesn't mean another breed can't herd. It doesn't mean that another breed can't herd and do it well - at one of the clubs I train at a SBT trains and does a fair job. You hear stories of all sorts of breeds that work on properties and do a good job. It is just that under ANKC regulations a poodle can't have earned a herding title the same as my dalmation can't earn a gundog title no matter how well she retrieves. ETA It is like saying you have a limited reigister dog who has a conformation championship

I've never seen a poodle with a herding title, at least not in this country as they are not an eligable breed. Why? Under ANKC regulations the eligable breeds are Group 5, plus Bernese Mountain Dog, Canaan Dog, Keeshond, Kerry Blue Terrier, Norwegian Elkhound, Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier, Tibetan Terrier, Standard Schnauzer, Giant Schnauzer and Rottweiller. All breeds who have a history of herding. It is much like gundog trials are restricted to gundogs.

I've never seen a poodle with a herding title, at least not in this country as they are not an eligable breed.

Or bring one in from NZ where to quote their standard

Yes a short coated border collie.

One of the things you may find is that all correspondence to the ANKC should go through your state CC. I know in the past that I have had to deal with the ANKC this way.

Herding is a modified prey drive and not a true hunting prey drive. I have a very high drive working bred BC whose drive to herd is stronger than his drive to mate (I have worked him with bitches in season and he will ignore bitches in season if he sees sheep). He is also very easy to put onto high drive for agility/obedience type training but he has no desire to hunt even when the "prey" walks under his nose. I would also vote for some of the sighthounds and some of the working terrier breeds.

Well done Piper. Wre have a small brag too. Got an intermediate B pass with a score of 93 with a very nice run even is some fool kept telling her dog to "go back" when she meant "come behind" on the drive from the handlers pag to the first gate. We only lost 1 point on the cast which really pleased me as the way the cast is set up at the moment it is a blind cast for the intermediate and advanced dogs. Advanced A we totally stuffed the cross drive loosing 13 points so NQed but still with a total score that would have qualified him if he hadn't lost over 50% on the crossdrive..

I only compete in herding with one of my dogs these days. I can't get enthusiastic about obedience any more despite having a dog with 2 passes at CD - its boring. I do love tracking but it interferes with herding. The dog I herd with lives to work - sheep are his life. I have worked him with a bitch in season and he's ignored her till we finished working. I also really love working with a dogs natural instincts and there is something really special about the partnership of working with a dog doing what he's bred for.

You need to make provisions for them in a will. 2 of mine go to their breed specific rescue if they are of a rehomeable age, otherwise PTS. The 3rd goes to a friend who is has the same ideas about breeding etc as I do.

:D I have been reading this thread with interest and one thing that has stood out to me is people complaining about what is done but no one taking active steps towards changing things. It is no good complaining about what the GSDL does unless you are willing to be an active member and lobby for changes. It is possible, even as just a member, to get a motion tabled and voted on at a meeting - you just have to be prepared to put in the work to get the support to get it passed. You can work towards getting that motion then put to the GSDCA, and if you do the work to get the different states in agreement, get it passed. I have been involved in trying to do this in my breed with other issues and it is hard work but entirely doable. My dogs ancestors main achievements - international champion sheepdogs and international driving champions aren't recognised by the ANKC and not printed on his ANKC pedigree but it doesn't really detract from the fact he is descended from these dogs and that his work ethic and ability are a product of breeding from these dogs.

:D I have been reading this thread with interest and one thing that has stood out to me is people complaining about what is done but no one taking active steps towards changing things. It is no good complaining about what the GSDL does unless you are willing to be an active member and lobby for changes. It is possible, even as just a member, to get a motion tabled and voted on at a meeting - you just have to be prepared to put in the work to get the support to get it passed. You can work towards getting that motion then put to the GSDCA, and if you do the work to get the different states in agreement, get it passed. I have been involved in trying to do this in my breed with other issues and it is hard work but entirely doable. My dogs ancestors main achievements - international champion sheepdogs and international driving champions aren't recognised by the ANKC and not printed on his ANKC pedigree but it doesn't really detract from the fact he is descended from these dogs and that his work ethic and ability are a product of breeding from these dogs.

No not a pound puppy, it's Scapa, son of Cole. Thats Donald as his breeder called him. I knew he went to someone who does obedience but didn't know who. Is he coming to you for lessons?

Does this remind you of anyone Janba? I can't believe the resemblance Isn't he/she like Cole_ wouldn't be called Donald? I hope its not a pound puppy.

One of the classically marked tri girls - Tig. ETA the new owners (previous BC owners) had bought as a pet but decided after puppy preschool and living with her that she needed something to do so thought they would try herding.

You will have WAAYYY more chance of a brag than me. I have entered 2 dogs, up a level and not convinced either is ready. LOL Maybe not - I'm trialling the ratbag Cole. On Sunday one of Coles daughters from the Kinlachaline litter came to try herding. She was Colins choice of the litter and she proved him right. The first time she wasn't interested but the second she turned on. She's going to be her fathers daughter - fast and strong but pretty as a picture unlike her father. I am waiting for the owners to email me a photo of her and Cole side by side watching sheep.

Good luck for the weekend Piper. I'm sure you'll have a few brags. We also have a double trial this weekend with Cole entered in Advanced A and Inter B (for his last pass). We actually got to a prctice run on the B course yesterday and he was good so heres hoping.

You send them to DogsNSW and they will transfer them to your name and re issue you with DogsNSW orange LR papers but she will still have her original registration number.

Sydney is held at Easter so can be late March or April.

In NSW the registration isn't with the council but on a statewide register. You can register, change details etc at any council in the state.