Janba

You would need to start off with dual registered dogs as the ANKC stud book is closed registry- I don't know if the WKC will register ANKC kelpies. I do not know if any overseas kennel clubs recognise WKC dogs and admit them to their registry like they do with the ISDS (International Sheepdog Society) for border collies. The dual registered BCs in this country have been imported or are offspring of imported dogs.

WKC dogs can only be registered on the sporting registry of your states CC not on the ANKC registry. The sproting register allows you to compete in ANKC dog sports without having to desex your dog but you can't compete in conformation or register your dogs offspring except as a sporting registry dog. There were a couple kennels around with dual registered kelpies. The WKC is still a legitimate registry and would register more kelpies per year than the ANKC

I can't see the point in doing an AI if you get a natural mating with a tie. If you can't get a natural mating I would ask why not especially if the stud dog is experienced. The last time a bitch came to my dog we didn't get a mating even though the bitch was prog tested and standing and the dog experienced. We took them to the vet and did an AI that resulted in one pup, an emergency caesarean and the pup dead. In a breed that is normally has no problems with mating and whelping there was a reason why the mating didn't occur. I personally will not do an AI again if I don't get a natural mating.

The OP is a registered breeder with the WKC (Working Kelpie Council) If that is the case EXCELLENT you see I come from a rurual back ground and I know the worth of a good working breed. So why ask in the first place instead of looking at the OP's earlier posts where she states in another thread that she is a WKC breeder?

The OP is a registered breeder with the WKC (Working Kelpie Council)

No option for mine. They are inside with access to the backyard which I know they use.

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5/6 years is the prime of a dogs life and at that age he should be able to serve a bitch for the first time. 2 dogs that I know of weren't use for the first time till well after that age, (1 was 9 and the other 10) for different reasons and both had no problems with the deed or with siring healthy pups. A dog that has problems at 5/6 would probably have the same problems at 2. How many show dogs are kept entire with little or no chance they will be bred from? I don't think using a dog lessens the risk of testicular cancer which is quite low anyway and not all lumps on testis are cancer even though the common practice is to castrate when a lump is found rather than do tests.

Yes, it would be possible to lease your MR dog back to the breeder to use for a litter, without becoming a registered Breeder yourself. Co-ownership not being necessary. However, I don't think co-ownership was in question in this scenario, was it? I don't know about other states but in NSW the stud dog owner just needs to be a financial member but doesn't have to have a breeders prefix. ETA I no longer have a breeders prefix but my dog, who is in my name, has sired registered litters.

There is no choice at all. People have a right to go about their daily business unaccosted. Which, btw, includes not being attacked by dogs. Further more, people are protected by law in that right and privelege. Mace I think you need to step back from this line of argument. It may be time to seek informed opinion rather than hanging on to a very tenuous point of view. You are not doing yourself any favours here. Px Its not often I find myself agreeing with you Tralee but with this you are so right

The mistake is probably on the cataloguers database rather than oz entries. I do catalogues for performsnce trials for several clubs an use an access database. Online entries have to be entered onto the database and mistakes can happen if I don't see an update on an entry form. As suggested highlight any changes.

One of my border collies moults in clumps, it makes it so easy to pick up :) The other moults hair by hair. It very easily could be her first adult moult as persephine said but if she starts scratching or has bald patches see the vet.

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I trim mine sometimes with no ill effects. The black and white boy in my avatar is currently sporting a dogzillion (shaved from his anus to in front of his penis) as he is shedding and was matting.

Problem with wandering animals is that you need to find out who they belong to so you can complain. Its a bit late when the cat has been killed by a dog or a car. Barking dogs are a problem too and if the problem is really bad talk to her about things like training, antibark collars etc and if that doesn't work you can complain to the council.

The OP probably means show lines as distinct from working lines. Working BCs and show BCs both come in a range of activity levels so just because it is working bred doesn't necessarily mean the dog will be more active.

Cats should be kept on you property and a wandering cat is no different to a wandering dogt. I hate wandering cats as I have a dog who hates them and have no desire to find a cat who has been attacked in my backyard. ETA The fact that a cat wanders onto your property doesn't give you the right to kill it. This man should be stopped and the book thrown at him.

Google the tame foxes in Russia for selection towards non aggression. If non aggression can be selectively bred for it has to have a genetic basis. Your assumption is that every breeder is ethical and takes the dogs good temperament into consideration when planning a mating, but as only about 20% of the dogs in this country are ANKC registered and probably only about the same on other registries (working, greyhound etc)can you guarantee that the breeders of the majority of dogs take temperament into consideration? I saw that doco... its why i would assume the "aggressive gene" was not a real excuse any more because I know temperament is such an important part of breeding the chance of dogs being born with high aggression was not impossible but not as common as just poorly raised dogs... I think the OP was more accurate in a general description than an aggressive gene. Temperament is important to an ethical breeder but do the majority of puppy farms and BYBs take temperament into account and that is where the majority of dogs come from. Until you can say that the majority of dogs are being bred from parents with very good temperaments you can't dismiss the genetic factor in aggression.

Google the tame foxes in Russia for selection towards non aggression. If non aggression can be selectively bred for it has to have a genetic basis. Your assumption is that every breeder is ethical and takes the dogs good temperament into consideration when planning a mating, but as only about 20% of the dogs in this country are ANKC registered and probably only about the same on other registries (working, greyhound etc)can you guarantee that the breeders of the majority of dogs take temperament into consideration?

You can register a litter online for Dogs NSW so long as it meets certain criteria that would cover the majority of litters born.

I think the OP means the one that trains in Centennial Park, Sydney. I have never trained there but I know a few Dolers do.

I also remember that the dog was not a young pup but about 12 months old and the breeder had rights ton use the dog at stud hence probably wy she took the dog back. Why the breeder didn't return him to the OP is unknown.

Do pounds/shelters take the time to match dogs ton owners or just release the the first person whon wants to buy that dog? I am not tslking about legitimate rescues.

She's beautiful - I love the black tris

I hope he is found sage and sound. Nothing is worse than not knowoing, Years ago Im lost a shih tzu for abou 5 days when she ran of in a storm. She reappeared asking a picnicker for food after having been in the bush for that time.