Sandra777

I would simply tell them straight that you can not guarantee they will get the liver bitch and do they still want to be on your waiting list, put the ball back in their court. Another reason I don't send photos of tiny puppies to eagerly waiting pet owners!

Glad it's all good!

Personally I think they were right to shoot. If a police dog came on our property there's a pretty good chance our dogs would attack it, but that doesn't change my opinion.

Contact the breeder of your dog. Any reputable breeder would be happy to mentor someone who is genuinely interested in doing the right thing, especially when they already have a dog from that breeder Well I would suggest you get him out in public in the show ring and prove to people that there can be such a thing as a quality blue - and at the same time you will be proving you are serious about the breed to those people who will probably be the ones you need to get advice and help from over the time you spend living your dream to breed great Staffords. And so he should be.

Get BF to go into the REA's office in the main town and either pay the rent with his card while he's there or get them to agree and put it in writing that you have xxx number of days to pay due to their office closing. Setting up a bank transfer would be the simplest and you can do that at any branch of your bank, if you don't have access to BPay (no internet banking? how do you live )

A lot of people on here recommend White Rose Kennels at Walloon (just west of Ipswich). Not exactly southside, but perhaps worth the trip to find a really good kennel?

And if you had been involved with a breed which has been taken to hell and beyond by "breeders" who firstly were only interested in breeding anything just for money and then turned to utterly destroying the soul of the breed by breeding purely for colour (and money), then perhaps you would be able to understand why all people who love the Stafford are protective and defensive about a breed which could possibly be beyond saving.

So - where is YOUR advice. What advice do YOU think we should have supplied? Not being a breeder is no excuse, this person isn't either - what sort of advice would YOU be looking for if you were considering it? The advice offered is good advice - find out about the breed, find someone to mentor you and worry about the important stuff such as health temperament and conformation instead of the unimportant stuff such as colour. Obviously this wasn't the advice the OP wanted, but how is that OUR fault? It's not about the advice itself, it's about the tone and delivery. If you want to educate people and bring them around to your way of thinking - and subsequently grow your community, well a kind word or two wouldn't go astray. Where was the, "oh good on you for coming here first and not just breeding your dog to the first female you found like so many do?" Instead it was very negative and the thread reads with an uncomfortable verging on aggressive and dissmissive tone. Try putting yourself in the other person's shoes. Yeah he didn't know, but he came here for help and now he wants nothing to do with this community, like so many others. You might say, well we don't need them, but right now you can't watch a show about dogs, speak to the general public etc and hear anything positive about your community, and I would have thought that at least some of you wanted to try and change that. My advice? You're going about it the wrong way. Well if that's the way you read what was written I suggest you go back and read it with an open mind rather than with the opinion that we're all a bunch of nasty bastards which is what you obviously believe.

Uh - suggest you re-read that - what I actually said was that in 25 years time they would maybe be in a position to worry about the COLOUR OF THE DOG. And if you read the original post they have owned Staffords for 25 years which is the only reason I chucked that figure in - NEVER would actually be a better time to worry about the colour of the dog.

So - where is YOUR advice. What advice do YOU think we should have supplied? Not being a breeder is no excuse, this person isn't either - what sort of advice would YOU be looking for if you were considering it? The advice offered is good advice - find out about the breed, find someone to mentor you and worry about the important stuff such as health temperament and conformation instead of the unimportant stuff such as colour. Obviously this wasn't the advice the OP wanted, but how is that OUR fault?

And he GOT help and advice 1) when breeding colour is irrelevant, concentrate on the important stuff. I think everyone who breeds dogs for the right reasons would accept this as a good answer 2) The question about in who's opinion is his male "fantastic" is quite valid, everyone thinks their own dog is fantastic and so they should - and he answered it saying someone with good credentials believes it to be so, which is great 3) WHERE have you looked for good breeders is also a valid question since he claimed it was difficult to find good breeders in NSW (which is not true). Haven't got an answer for that one yet 4) He was advised to join a breed club, which is excellant advice 5)He was advised to find a mentor, which is excellant advice 6) He was advised to look in to one of the most common problems with the colour of the dog he already owns. Sorry Jacqui I must've missed it - what advice did YOU contribute?

No. The point of the exercise is to use the pup's natural dislike of toileting in it's own bed to help with the house training. If you leave the pup in there for longer than it can physically "hold on" it WILL toilet in the crate. Not only is this just plain cruel, it's also breaking down the pup's natural instincts to be clean and counter productive to the purpose of it all. I would set up a play pen inside for a smaller pup or a larger area such as a kennel and run outside for a larger pup and/or in nice weather, fenced off from the whole garden (assuming it's more than a courtyard!) so you can confine the pup somewhere you know it will be safe and not chewing something it shouldn't be and perhaps getting into something poisonous. The playpen/fenced off area has a bed and toys in it but gives the pup room to move away from it's bed to toilet as it's instincts want it to.

There are many many good breeders in NSW, it won't be that hard to hook up with a good one, what shows have you attended, where have you actually looked for a good breeder?

The colour of the bitch is utterly irrelevant. The dog and bitch need to be compatiable in terms of lack of common faults and complementing virtues both in themselves and in their pedigree. Correct temperament, health testing all in order, breeder with a prefix, dogs main registered. Concentrate on these things, that'll take you another 25 years to sort out then perhaps you can concern yourself with something so insignificant as the colour of the dog's hair. ETA: Staffordshire Bull Terriers don't, genetically speaking, come in black.

At just under 6 months and 12.5kg I wouldn't expect him to get much over 20kg - and certainly wouldn't want him to gain 7kg in "a few weeks"!!! 12.5kg is a big Stafford puppy at the same age, and by that I mean one that will get to about 20-22kg when fully grown, so to me that doesn't mean a particularly big dog. But different breeds (and crosses!) grow at different rates. As for height - check his front growth plates (knees), if there's still a considerable "ridge" across the knee then there's still a fair bit of growing to be done in the legs.

(Porties) Then definitely ignore my suggestion Clipped every 8 weeks and the only grooming is keeping the ears and elbows matt free and running a slicker over the rest. This is based only on the wavy - for curlies basically listen to a poodle person. The coat on the wavy doesn't grow enormously quickly, especially with a dog that lives in the real world, but if you don't want to clip then just don't go there!

Depends on the size of dog. My lot love them. never had any bone scraps back but they do give me bone bits back (usually in the middle of the carpet ) from beef sometimes. Vomiting up things they can't digest is normal for dogs and not really anything to be concerned about provided it's not a daily occurance. You could find that in time their stomach adjusts and produces the acids required to digest the bits that are now rejected.

Portuguese Water Dog would fit the bill. So people orientated it's not funny. Very good off switch. Hardy once grown. Smart. Love to learn things (especially things you don't want them to know). Fast for agility, neat and tidy for obedience. Don't freak about the coat - with the wavy coats if you clip them short every 6 weeks there really is virtually no other grooming required. I believe the curlies are a bit different, but clipping solves most problems

I'm with everyone else. Two Stafford bitches the same age from a very bad beginning - what were you thinking :eek: :eek: I would strongly recommend you rehome one now. In the mean time, separate them except for a ten to fifteen minute interval when you allow them to rough house and run together without human involvement in their game. This is likely to involve a lot of rough play and could get down right nasty at times but they will learn from each other about the difference between play and pain! They need to learn to interact with people as people instead of treating you like a toy. I suspect the one that instigates the biting is going to be a head strong little miss. IF SHE IS NOT TIMID OF NEW THINGS but is big and bold and out there then this one I would tend to be quite harsh with, even to the point of physical punishment. If she is otherwise quite wary then definitely do not get harsh with her! The instant she even looks like she wants to make her teeth and your skin come in contact you must stop it. Dog teeth and human skin must never ever be allowed to come in contact, this has to be the golden rule. Pick her up (by the scruff if need be) and put her in time out. Instantly, not squeaking or squealing or ineffective "no don't do that" from you - just instant, teeth, grab, bang, you're outta here. Don't say anything, just remove her from the scene. What does your OH do while these pups are "attacking" you? What are they like around their food with you?

:clap: Me too. Absolutely HATE both with a passion. I can't transfer my prefix to the ANKC, it's already taken even though it was registered in NZ in 1979 and they won't accept anything vaguely similar (despite there being prefixes all over Australia which are only one letter different AND my prefix is no longer being used here and wasn't even in the same group let alone breed ) Went through lots and lots of lists with random words on it for about a year before deciding on the new one. Doesn't mean anything, isn't anything to do with past dogs or the breed, just like the sound of it.

Sporting Terrier club does it. Phone the secretary.

I don't like cats so nope, not a non-specific animal lover :D

What's the point of taking a deposit if someone can change their mind and get their deposit back? Personally I don't do deposits and never will, but if I was you I would be checking with the consumer people in your state and in the state the not-buyer lives in it's different. If you haven't stated it's a non refundable deposit I would think you would have no right to keep it but the law may not agree with that!

I wouldn't even start thinking about separating mum and pups until they're at least 6 weeks old, and then only for an hour or so. Arrange an area that mum can get to but the pups can't so she can get away from them if she chooses to.

A 7 hour gap isn't much, but again probably toy breed pups are a bit different to what I'm used to! I would be happy leaving a bowl of dry food (not soaked) and twice as many bones as there are puppies for them to mess about with while I was away. Again, probably not the best option for your sized pups but I frequently leave my 6-8 week olds with a couple of handfuls of broken up 2 x 4 biscuits - keep them occupied and gives them something to swallow if they think they're hungry. Not sure you'd want to fill up your smaller tummies with basically 'rubbish' - do you have blood sugar issues with Paps like Chis can do??