Are You Serious Jo

Thank you.

I'll get on to the other FB groups first thing tomorrow too.

Ok, I have found myself in a situation where I am a bit stuck and am hoping to find a solution to this before I take the horrible step of having to permanently rehome my boy I now have to go back and forwards between Perth and Brisbane and cannot afford to fly my coolie back and forwards with my own fares and I also can not afford to board him in between at either end. What I would like to do is loan him out to someone who would like to have a herding trial dog almost ready to trial, preferably for a period of 12 months. For someone just getting into herding this would be a good opportunity to have a dog that is well started, or someone that needs a worker or are experienced. They don't have the lifetime commitment as well and I don't have to lose him forever. If I am stuck and it is best to rehome him I will, but I am trying this first before taking that step. So asking if anyone here is interested or knows someone that might be. He's a red merle, desexed, around 6, not a barker, not destructive and has an excellent off switch but a good worker. He's got good brakes and steering and soft enough to work poultry as well as sheep but will probably push enough for cattle too. I have done a lot of work on his herding and he is quite good. He hasn't seen sheep for a few years so the first 15 minutes will be a bit scattered but he can be cast and will gather stock. Registered with the Koolir club and was on the sporting register in SA. I am in Brisbane but will be driving to Perth at latest Friday, through Broken Hill etc, but I can deviate a bit to meet people. I have put the word out with my old herding club and the working koolie people have put it up on their page but nothing yet.

Yep.

sure is. very frightening where things are going. The Four Corners program was horrifying enough, children young as 11 locked up for stealing a car and treated so cruelly, children in solatary not even allowed to attend any form of schooling or interaction. If their parents did that corrective services would have taken their child away. then we see Australian story, a teenage girl is denied the right to go to finish school, taken from her husband and her now family to flown wherever the immigration dept decides, agree to be deported or imprisoned as for those in charge of her, just as inhuman as the prison guards in Four Corners really, she and her husband cant even hug if they can prevent it, not even allowed to have the flowers he brought for her. This is Australia today? We now have prison camps where the criminals have more human rights than that poor girl and the other refugees with her. Yes some are possibly isis infiltrators but that's no excuse to mentally destroy anyone surely. I am ashamed of Australia if this kind of cruelty is ok and sanctioned by the politicians that just got themselves elected and remember this is the lot who have refused her sanctuary already. are only acting now after the 4 corners expose of the children!. they have been in govt long enough to know whats going on, thank goodness for the abc or nothing would still have been done for those kids. Barring banding together finally, and shout NO, DEMAND and VOTE for those who will not sell us out. on so many fronts or we will be seeing Lhok has pretty accurately lined up the future on that scene too. Just have to mention, none of the asylum seekers imprisoned here are ISIS infiltrators, terrorists don't sit in a prison for three years being tortured. If you look at terrorist stats they are on the whole home grown. Australia is going to poo on many different levels and all that freedom we love is being taken away. I agree that something needed to be done about the rogues in the racing industry but now look what is happening. How do you eat an elephant, one bite at a time. Now you won't be able to own a sighthound if you own cats. People have to leave the state or give up their pets. you could be forgiven to thinking to govt must think they might be how else on earth can they justify the treatment, they have less rights than convicted murderer's? You have to understand asal, that the government know they aren't criminals, but they use them to scare people because they are convenient tools. Asylum seekers in Australia are 45 times less likely to commit crimes than other Australians, that is immigration data. By making people believe these are dangerous would be terrorists they win elections. Plus the whole detention industry is very lucrative. Yes they have less rights than convicted murderers, we don't have a bill of rights in Australia so the government does what it likes to them. Go read the coalitions thread though because I don't want to derail here. I am happy to fill you in on exactly what this government is doing to innocent people and what laws they are also breaking to do so.

sure is. very frightening where things are going. The Four Corners program was horrifying enough, children young as 11 locked up for stealing a car and treated so cruelly, children in solatary not even allowed to attend any form of schooling or interaction. If their parents did that corrective services would have taken their child away. then we see Australian story, a teenage girl is denied the right to go to finish school, taken from her husband and her now family to flown wherever the immigration dept decides, agree to be deported or imprisoned as for those in charge of her, just as inhuman as the prison guards in Four Corners really, she and her husband cant even hug if they can prevent it, not even allowed to have the flowers he brought for her. This is Australia today? We now have prison camps where the criminals have more human rights than that poor girl and the other refugees with her. Yes some are possibly isis infiltrators but that's no excuse to mentally destroy anyone surely. I am ashamed of Australia if this kind of cruelty is ok and sanctioned by the politicians that just got themselves elected and remember this is the lot who have refused her sanctuary already. are only acting now after the 4 corners expose of the children!. they have been in govt long enough to know whats going on, thank goodness for the abc or nothing would still have been done for those kids. Barring banding together finally, and shout NO, DEMAND and VOTE for those who will not sell us out. on so many fronts or we will be seeing Lhok has pretty accurately lined up the future on that scene too. Just have to mention, none of the asylum seekers imprisoned here are ISIS infiltrators, terrorists don't sit in a prison for three years being tortured. If you look at terrorist stats they are on the whole home grown. Australia is going to poo on many different levels and all that freedom we love is being taken away. I agree that something needed to be done about the rogues in the racing industry but now look what is happening. How do you eat an elephant, one bite at a time. Now you won't be able to own a sighthound if you own cats. People have to leave the state or give up their pets.

They haven't legislated against the breed. They have condemned the activity. See this graphic, this is legislation against the breed.

Shit

I think the next person who gets a dog at large fine around there should argue using the Franklin principle!

I won't put up ideas but this is pretty common. Hate people

Another thing to consider is that some sickos like to kill special animals who are popular. He is at large and people won't be able to protect him from those sorts. I believe he should be caught for his own good too but he's not just a risk to others, he is at risk from bad people.

The council can be sued if he wrecks a car or causes injuries.

She didn't have a good reputation in the past either, it's always been that way.

The same people supporting her complain about puppy farms and want them shut, the cognitive dissonance is astounding.

It's one of the things people objected to as well, it is shocking and irresponsible. She'd send kittens to a rescue in Adelaide and they'd send unrehomable semi wild cats up and she'd release them around the shelter. No law saying they had to be contained there and no one could stop her anyway, she did whatever the hell she liked.

She released cats into the area around the shelter anyway.

The title plus the fact I'd just seen the police announcement threw me.

Oops, more coffee needed I think :laugh:

Sorry, that should be the police instead of QLD transport that have said it's a hoax.

QLD transport came out yesterday and said this is a hoax. But still a good idea to get rated shackles anyway.

Gimp is free and does layers. All you do is load as layers and erase bits on the different layers. They are cool.

Nah, long coats are cruel remember...

Kelpies for everyone!

Yeah, bikes are different, I was talking about cars. You are in trouble if you swerve or hit something on a bike.

You have to keep going straight if you are travelling at speed and an animal comes right out in front of you. If you run through it in your mind you prepare for if it happens. I've swerved when safe to do so and just braced and gone straight when I've had to as well.