mantis

I know that Kenny used to drop when his Maltese X girlfriend used to come & play with him. I guess I'm a bit paranoid now because of BSL & terrified to put Cougar at risk. Yes I know it's my fear that stops her playing with smaller dogs, if she was younger I'd probably try it, but because she's an older dog, I don't want to risk it. I guess I have too many memories of what Kenny went through.

The owner leaves the back door open so he can go in & out when he likes. That's good,, because like last night I was able to go over & give him some food & top up his water. I'm not sure how he would get on with my dog, because he is hyper & he is legs are so thin, I'm scared Cougar might break him if she decided to play.

I have given him a kong, but that doesn't work for long. I have also given him a tug rope & ball, he destroyed that in about 15 minutes.

As I have said in the many other threads on this. My Kenny was one of thirteen pups & wasn't breathing when he was born, so had to give him the shakes & mouth to mouth. He was also the runt of the litter, so his siblings used to push him aside so he couldn't feed. So I named him Kenny after the South Park character.

The man in the unit next to me has a lovely Whippet, but he suffers badly from SA. When his owner goes out he howls the place down, I do what I can, by giving him treats & talking to him. Some of the other people at the units have threatened to let him out, to find a new owner. His owner is like me, older & suffers depression so doesn't need the extra strain of people saying they will let his dog loose. He adores this dog & before he started suffering depression, he used to breed Staffies, so knows how to look after dogs. Any help would be appreciated, he can't afford a behaviourist.

Another strange ting Cougar does, she drags the blankie off the couch, that I use to stop doggy stains & drags it under my computer table to lay on, when I'm on the computer. The blanket was Kenny"s favourite too, it has been washed many times since Kenny crossed the but she still prefers laying on it than anything else.

A blonde wig would top it off. :laugh:

Stan is a cross dresser, who would have thunk it?

You are not responsible for your dog's actions if rushed at by an off leash dog and yours in on leash in a public place. The person at fault is the one who allowed their dog to be at large and do the rushing and the consequences are irrelevent. You don't have to muzzle reactive dogs or keep reactive dogs away from public places where there may be dogs at large rushing at leashed dogs. It's up to the owners of all dogs to keep them on leash in a public place and not allow them to rush at other dogs and respect the personal space of others. :cheer: Not posting in this thread anymore, too many people think it's OK to let off leash dogs to attack on lead dogs, without the on lead dog responding, it's like this.

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I think Stan, Dan & Kenny were triplets, Kenny only ever wanted to walk to the end of the street, then wanted to go back home to the couch.

If all owners of dogs either big dogs or small, followed the law & never let their dogs off leash, except in off leash areas, there wouldn't be a problem. Also, why should people with FA dogs have to keep their dogs prisoners, because of irresponsible owners? You do realise that dogs become FA, after being attacked by off leash dogs, while they were on lead aren't you? Honestly, it just annoys me that people think that because big dogs can cause more damage, they are the only ones who should follow the law. I do agree with the OP, the dogs in this case are definitely in the wrong & I feel sorry for the poor dog & the owners. What exactly is your problem Mantis? You either have a FA or DA dog in a public area? Surely as a responsible owner you would either; avoid setting the dog up for failure in the first place; or as an owner who KNOWS your dog is either FA or DA you make SURE your dog is not forced into a position to fail. ETA Spelling. Your reply is my problem, if I as a responsible owner walks my dog on lead & doesn't go to off lead areas, I should be able to walk my dog without fear of it being attacked. Because of the attitude of some people on here & moron dog owners in the community, I am to scared to walk my new dog Cougar, in case she ends up like my poor Kenny. It's total bull****, keep your dogs on lead if you don't want them hurt & to stop them hurting other dogs, big or small, how hard is that? A fully expected reply and a really crap response. As is yours.

If all owners of dogs either big dogs or small, followed the law & never let their dogs off leash, except in off leash areas, there wouldn't be a problem. Also, why should people with FA dogs have to keep their dogs prisoners, because of irresponsible owners? You do realise that dogs become FA, after being attacked by off leash dogs, while they were on lead aren't you? Honestly, it just annoys me that people think that because big dogs can cause more damage, they are the only ones who should follow the law. I do agree with the OP, the dogs in this case are definitely in the wrong & I feel sorry for the poor dog & the owners. What exactly is your problem Mantis? You either have a FA or DA dog in a public area? Surely as a responsible owner you would either; avoid setting the dog up for failure in the first place; or as an owner who KNOWS your dog is either FA or DA you make SURE your dog is not forced into a position to fail. ETA Spelling. Your reply is my problem, if I as a responsible owner walks my dog on lead & doesn't go to off lead areas, I should be able to walk my dog without fear of it being attacked. Because of the attitude of some people on here & moron dog owners in the community, I am to scared to walk my new dog Cougar, in case she ends up like my poor Kenny. It's total bull****, keep your dogs on lead if you don't want them hurt & to stop them hurting other dogs, big or small, how hard is that?

tdierixz said that if you have a dog who will react to being rushed by on off leash dog, we should not walk them. As you know this is a sore point for me, having had a friendly dog turned FA because of off leash dogs, it isn't fair that people who do the right thing are expected to keep their dogs prisoners, just because they are large & can hurt an attacking dog of any size. I know that but I can't see how tdierixz is saying break the law? If you want to defend the dog that killed this schnauzer then you're well out of line. This isn't actually about you or Kenny. If you read my other post, I never defended that dog & said it was to blame, because it was off lead & the owner hopefully is found & punished.

tdierixz said that if you have a dog who will react to being rushed by on off leash dog, we should not walk them. As you know this is a sore point for me, having had a friendly dog turned FA because of off leash dogs, it isn't fair that people who do the right thing are expected to keep their dogs prisoners, just because they are large & can hurt an attacking dog of any size.

Stupid humans, get it right. :laugh:

That would have been Kenny's favourite walking spot as well.

If all owners of dogs either big dogs or small, followed the law & never let their dogs off leash, except in off leash areas, there wouldn't be a problem. Also, why should people with FA dogs have to keep their dogs prisoners, because of irresponsible owners? You do realise that dogs become FA, after being attacked by off leash dogs, while they were on lead aren't you? Honestly, it just annoys me that people think that because big dogs can cause more damage, they are the only ones who should follow the law. I do agree with the OP, the dogs in this case are definitely in the wrong & I feel sorry for the poor dog & the owners.

As soon as Cougar sees me get my mobile & my bag she knows I'm going out, so she goes & hides under my bed. It's like she is scared that some bad person will break in while I'm out, so she thinks hiding under my bed will keep her safe. Mind you, when I get home she is always happily snoozing on the couch. :laugh:

Kenny killed two cats unfortunately. The first one I heard him howling around 2am, I went out the back & there he was nudging this poor dead cat with his nose & touching it with his paw. He obviously just thought it was a nice fluffy toy to play with & was trying to get it to move again, so he could play. The cat didn't have a mark on it, but it's neck was broken, obviously from shaking. The second I found when I got home from work, so I don't know how long he'd been playing with that one, no bite marks again. I'm not sure that is prey drive, or just finding something to play with.

When Kenny was hungry & there was no dry food in his bowl, he used to pick it up & drop it next to me.

My 7 year old rescue Staffy eats her food, but once there is only a bit of food left around the sides of the bowl, she puts her paw in the bowl to stop it moving all over the floor, while she gets the last bits. I have never had a dog do this, they usually chase the bowl all around the floor until it's gone. I think she is incredibly smart to do that, now I think my other dogs were dumb.

Given that we are all interpreting your posts the same way, perhaps the issue is in the delivery rather than the interpretation. "did their little fluffball yap and carry on toward the larger dog first or was it as portrayed, a completely unprovoked attack? Unfortunately we're never likely to know!" I've been accused of all sorts of things in this thread. I've been accused of suggesting that a small dog yapping at a larger dog somehow justified the small dog getting ripped to shreds. I look forward to someone showing me where I said that - not some ridiculous extrapolation of what i've said, what i actually said! The 'ridiculous extrapolation' that you so kindly quoted again above was a direct quote from you. I've bolded it for your easy reference. You suggested that the fault might lie with the little dog's actions, and then were incredibly rude and insensitive to small dog owners, basically suggesting everyone should 'control their yapping little shits.' That one's NOT a direct quote, but I can't be bothered going back and searching seven pages for more of your posts for the one I refer to. I can't believe that with all of these people telling you how unreasonable your posts are coming across in this thread, that it doesn't occur to you that there may be some merit to what we say. Where did I say that a little dog yapping and carrying on JUSTIFIED an attack? I was simply questioning whether there might be a little more to the story, I don't believe provocation is a justiable excuse for the outcome but it would go a long way to explaining what happened. As far as offending owners of little dogs, if you own a little dog and it likes to go aggressively yapping at other dogs then I do hope you were offended and you might take something from what i've said. If you own a little dog that doesn't go aggressively yapping at other dogs then you have no reason to be offended!!! I'm absolutely sick of owners of little dogs who allow their dogs to provoke other dogs - I see it all the time, luckily the park/beach i go to daily is generally populated by well trained dogs, but I can imagine it's only a matter of time before someones dog who isn't as well trained and socialised as my own reacts to a little yapper and well the outcome could quickly become tragic like this one. And I couldn't give a rodents rectum how many people jump into your little yapping pack accusing me of anything and everything. Not one accusation holds water with what I actually said! I agree, especially when the owners of these dogs think it's cute & do nothing to stop them. Irresponsible owners have all size dogs, but I am sick of the big dogs always getting the blame, just because of their size. Everyone feels sorry for the small dog, even if it was the one who started it.

Kenny hated rain, he didn't even like walking on wet grass, Cougar doesn't like rain either, maybe Bullbreeds are just sooks. :laugh: I wouldn't worry too much, think about all the working dogs who are left out in the elements.