mantis

I'm the same. I had an appointment in Sydney yesterday and was gone all day and I couldn't wait to get home to them. I always leave barbies and parties early, I just say " sorry gotta go, Stan just rang and he's starving" :laugh: I have broken 2 fingers, one of them is crooked & the plastic surgeon said I needed surgery to have a pin put in, otherwise my finger will always be crooked & I won't have full use of it., because I have also damaged the tendon. I would have to spend 2 days in hospital, told him that is impossible, so I am going to have a crooked finger now, but at least I am home looking after Cougar. :laugh:

Thank goodness, I couldn't handle you hurting yourself if I am right, which I'm pretty sure I am. :laugh: You have to be suss, when someone just joins up & starts a thread about Bull Breeds. Yes I know I am paranoid, but my radar kicks in straight away.

Do you live near a bridge? :laugh: Not sure the point of that comment? I think Mantis is implying that the OP may be a *dare I say it* troll... Do you think I'm right, or wrong?

Say what? If you listened to the video, he said we are going to be famous. That beautiful dog was obviously no threat, so why did't he pick it up after half an hour, or call a Vet? Such a beautiful big boofa, who got exploited by people who wanted internet fame.

Do you live near a bridge? :laugh:

Also wouldn't have to replace couches, mattresses, doonas & pillows on a regular basis.

It's so worth putting up with all that, to have the love & companionship of a dog. I wouldn't swap it for the world.

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I'm the same. When I lived in Perth & wanted to get some beer, I could have walked the 200m to the liquor store up the road, but I would have to leave Kenny outside. Instead I walked the 1km to the local pub & went to the drive through, where they would get my beer & a bowl of water for Kenny. Mind you. Kenny wasn't happy having to walk that far, why are all my dogs lazy buggers?

You are doing wonders Nekhbet, I'm so glad that now Jelly can see there is hope for Roo.

Every Vet clinic I've been to, the scales are always in the waiting room & it's always the Nurse who does the weighing, not the Vet & the lead has always been left on. Come on people, haven't you worked this out yet? :laugh:

Baby steps Jelly, but it sounds like you are on the right track. I'm just enjoying a beer myself. :laugh:

I think it's possible, lots of elderly people don't go out much, I know my mum's neighbours are rarely out, I think it's worth asking around the neighbourhood anyway just in case. Don't feel guilty you are working on the problem and that's all you can do, she is tough she will deal and you never know she may just be a little better. I have found crate training to be really helpful for my girl :) I hardly ever go out, it's not hard to stay home 9 - 5 to look after a dog you need in your life. Plenty of time to go shopping after that time & I'm sure the person whose dog you are looking after, would be quite happy to pick up the things you may need. To me it's a win, win all round. It would be great if someone could start up a website, to connect these people.

Have read the whole thread, what can I say that won't upset other posters, especially the OP.

Good post Remarkabull, I don't know anyone that would leave a dog in a car to die - deliberately. It is a horrible accident and the dog died as a result.. There is no way in hell that man put that dog in the car, with a view to leaving it there to die (not deliberate, therefore an accident).. There are so many here prepared to cast the first stone, so to speak - So none of you have ever made a mistake?? Maybe not to the extent of this one but hey, we are all human.. I have loads of empathy for him - he has to live with his actions. It could cost him his job, his reputation in the industry. The dog died but there is nothing to be gained from crucifying the man that made the mistake.. Some of you sound like you would hang him at the first chance.. It is a sad day when people lose the ability to forgive. He was a trained professional in charge of a valuable dog, not Joe Public. Doctors get struck off for malpractice when they screw up, how is this any different? So one terrible mistake in how many years of service? Talk about judge, jury and executioner! So you have never made a mistake, one you can't take back and it has impacted yours or someone else's life? Hope none of those in the lynch mob ever do anything they ever need forgiveness for.. So do you feel the same when a Doctor makes one mistake that takes a life after many years of service? Are you upset that they get struck off & sued for malpractice, or is it only if it's a dog that suffers, then the professional should get a free pass?

I've thought about that .... but how would I find them, maybe I could hang around Centrelink or the bank on pension day :D No more guarantee that older people are responsible than younger ones also. I think I'll just have to stump up for a month of daycare. I can probably put that on the credit card and hope for the best And hope the crate thing works out in that timeframe. What do you smarter-than-me people think - is that reasonable? Been watching Big Bang Theory all night, going out every ad break with the camera on. She's not flinching. I've tried to follow my going to work sequence - pick up keys, then when that gets no reaction pick up keys turn shower on, followed by pick up keys turn shower on put heels on go up hallway then finally out for 3 minutes and back in. Repeat ad nauseum :D I even worked up to getting in the car and going round the block. Tomorrow more of the same leading up to 10 minutes. Am I on the right track? If I hadn't just adopted my Staffy girl, I would have loved to do it, I dog sat all the dogs here while I was dog less. There must be many other oldies like me, that are missing having a dog & are home all day, but how to connect with them. Maybe someone should start a website for people needing a dog in their life & people needing dog sitters. I'm not talking about a paid arrangement, just a mutual exchange of someone getting to spend some time with a dog & the owner knows their dog is safe.

Good post Remarkabull, I don't know anyone that would leave a dog in a car to die - deliberately. It is a horrible accident and the dog died as a result.. There is no way in hell that man put that dog in the car, with a view to leaving it there to die (not deliberate, therefore an accident).. There are so many here prepared to cast the first stone, so to speak - So none of you have ever made a mistake?? Maybe not to the extent of this one but hey, we are all human.. I have loads of empathy for him - he has to live with his actions. It could cost him his job, his reputation in the industry. The dog died but there is nothing to be gained from crucifying the man that made the mistake.. Some of you sound like you would hang him at the first chance.. It is a sad day when people lose the ability to forgive. He was a trained professional in charge of a valuable dog, not Joe Public. Doctors get struck off for malpractice when they screw up, how is this any different?

LOL. The same old crap from you. Hallucinate things in posts that arent there. Here's a plan - ring up HR at Guide Dogs Australia, give them your name and demand a guy in a grab from a newspaper article be sacked, hung, drawn and quartered. Come back and tell us what the response was. I'm wondering why you & your mates, haven't responded to Brookestars posts. I have a theory on why, but then I am a cynic.

There is a fine line between an excuse and a reason :D Within the context of this thread, I believe the "reasons" being offered are excuses. I dont think you even know what youre talking about. You confuse empathy for a human as an excuse. Have you read Brookestars posts? There is no excuse or reason for what this trainer did. I'll leave my empathy for the poor, dead dog, not the negligent trainer. Yea I have. The same as I read Willows posts, and yours, and the people who have said they accidentally left a dog in the car. Until Guide Dogs Australia comes out with an official report its all fluff in the wind So you think Brookestar is lying?

There is a fine line between an excuse and a reason :D Within the context of this thread, I believe the "reasons" being offered are excuses. I dont think you even know what youre talking about. You confuse empathy for a human as an excuse. Have you read Brookestars posts? There is no excuse or reason for what this trainer did. I'll leave my empathy for the poor, dead dog, not the negligent trainer.

Brushing it under the carpet and ducking responsibility - Because so many of you are either blaming something else i.e. memory lapse, forgetfulness, Forgotten baby syndrome, wrong type of vehicle etc and expecting everyone to have empathy with him when the plain and simple fact is he was negligent in leaving the dog in the car in soaring temperatures to die a horrible and painful death. and he needs to be held accountable for this act of negligence as the outcome of this negligence killed the dog in his care. This was a special dog, a valuable guide dog who had so much potential to do so much good in the community and the loss of this dog to the guide dog association is huge and will set them back both in time and financially. Double standards as in other threads negligent people who caused a dog's death are crucified and hung out to dry, with little or no empathy or compassion and heaps of outpouring of sympathy and condolences for the poor dead dog, and rightly so I might add. What makes this case so different?? Why do the majority of posters empathise with the person whose negligent actions caused the death of this dog? It seems that a few of you are relating it to personal experiences of having forgotten your dogs are in the car. I personally don't understand how that can happen. I am always extra vigilant when my dogs or grand kids are in the car, and if I ever needed to transport them during extreme heat (will only ever do it if absolutely necessary) I am always on high alert and always make sure I am prepared (water etc) in case of a breakdown. When you work with service dogs you don't have a choice of when you should transport as it is part of the job to transport in all weather conditions and during the extreme weather conditions, the handlers/carers should be in a heightened state of alert/awareness anyway and should be more responsible and reliable than the general public as part of their job. I have been a longtime supporter of guide dogs and I think they do a terrific job, but if this guy does not lose his job and they don't implement more rigorous procedures for transporting of their dogs, I will rethink that support for sure as that to me would send a message they don't value their dogs as highly as they should. Lets look at the name of their organisation "Guide Dogs" - they are their whole reason for existing and if any of these wonderful dogs die due to the negligence of their handler/carer, then that handler/carer needs to pay the price of losing their job. In my mind and likeminded others, empathy doesn't come into it. Excellent post.

I think they should temperament test humans, to see if they are capable of raising a well trained & socialised dog. :laugh:

Why do I get the feeling, that you are either the irresponsible person, or know them. Why else did you suddenly start posting here.

I agree & it saddens me that people are making excuses for this moron. He knew it was a hot day, he shouldn't have left the dog in the car for 5 minutes. I hope he is sacked. RIP sweet puppy, you not only lost your life, but a blind person out there has lost a pair of eyes & a loving companion.

Sure, I believe her though thousands wouldn't.