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What is a meat by product - from http://www.cocothebloggingdog.com/2008/09/...eal-in-dog.html "By-Product: When you see ingredient listed as a by-product, such as poultry by-product, chicken by-product, meat by-product, etc. that means that it is by-products of of slaughtered animals that would never be considered good enough for human consumption. This would include things like feathers, blood, feet, intestines, hair, feces, beaks, cancerous tissue, ear tags, noses, foam packaging, spoiled meat, and heads. This can also include wood shavings or sawdust, but the pet food industry is not allowed more than 35% sawdust in their by-products. There is very little meat, it is what is left over after they take the meat off the slaughtered animal. Meat Meal, chicken meal, poultry meal, etc. is basically just another term for by-product. It is by-products and meat that would never be considered for human consumption. This could include zoo animals, downed 4-H animals, and diseased animals. The meat unfit for human consumption is boiled down, pulverized, and renamed meat meal for dog food. In fact, meat meal could also contain euthanized dogs and cats! The San Francisco Chronicle reported that euthanized dogs and cats were found in pet food listed as by-products. At first, pet food company executives and the National Renderers Association absolutely denied the report, then admitted only after the American Veterinary Medical Association and the FDA confirmed the story is indeed true! The FDA became involved because it was reported that dogs and cats seemed to be developing some type of resistance from pentobarbital. It was discovered that this was caused because they were constantly exposed to pentobarbital in their dog and cat food. According to the FDA, "Because in addition to producing anesthesia, pentobarbital is routinely used to euthanize animals, the most likely way it could get into dog food would be in rendered animal products. Rendered products come from a process that converts animal tissues to feed ingredients. Pentobarbital seems to be able to survive the rendering process. If animals are euthanized with pentobarbital and subsequently rendered, pentobarbital could be present in the rendered feed ingredients. In order to determine if pentobarbital residues were present in animal feeds, CVM developed a sophisticated process to detect and quantify minute levels – down to 2 parts per billion of pentobarbital in dry dog food. To confirm that the methods they developed worked properly, CVM scientists used the methods to analyze dry commercial dog foods purchased from retail outlets near to their Laurel, MD, laboratories. The scientists purchased dog food as part of two surveys, one in 1998 and the second in 2000. They found some samples contained pentobarbital." Full Article If you continue feeding commercial dog food, I would recommend to avoid products with by-product or meal anywhere in the ingredient list label."

If his ideal weight is 5kg.. he should be fed 100 grams of food per day. Measure it out in the mornings and divide into smaller meal for him, so he can eat 3-4 times a day.

Still haven't heard anything, but it's weekend...

I sent them an email: Hi... I would like to know the ingredients you put into Great Barko and Uncle Alberts dogfood... The 2 foods have different levels of protein, but the ingredients list looks pretty much the same. “Cooked meat or meat by-products derived from beef, lamb, chicken, pork, cooked fish or fish by-products” – Great Barko “Cooked meat or meat by-products derived from beef, lamb, poultry or pork. Cooked fish or fish by-products” – Uncle Alberts The ingredients list sounds GREAT, if it wasn’t for the “or”. Looking forward to your reply. Thank you

Since Great Barko is Australian made, wouldn't it be possible to get an accurate ingredients list.. I mean, they must have something to go by when they make the food...???

I think I would take the dog to the vet, and have them remove the nail, if necessary.

Ben used to hate the rain... Now he loves it, and I wish he didn't...

I wouldn't feed bought mince for dogs... You'd have no idea of the fat content... This kind of mince is normally made by butchers in order to sell otherwise unsellable fat and bones... My butcher doesn't sell chicken carcasses, because they can mince it and get a lot more 'crap' into the mince...

http://www.advancedpetnutrition.com.au/product.aspx These are the ingredients in Adavance Adult All Breed - Not really a huge different between this and Hills Science Diet or Optimum. Approx Prices & Kgs Adavance - $98ish =15kgs Optimum - Can't find price Hills SD - $95ish = 15kgs i.e these equal around $6 a kilo! Wow... you could feed a really good raw diet on that amount of money...

Never ever heard of them???

Maybe 'science' is getting in the way of the wellness of dogs? As it is of the wellness of people..

How about just using some Vaseline...???

Maybe he was trying to hide it from you by eating it???

I would just go back to basics... Train her like you would an 8 week old puppy...

Take your puppy out often and always straight after sleeping, playing and eating. Good luck and enjoy.

I use dried liver, but Ben gets such a small amount each time, I'm sure he doesn't know what he getting - except it's very special...

I sounds a bit like clicker training... only using a verbal marker... In clicker training the 'click' ends the behaviour... So if you want your dog to sit or stay for longer you delay the 'click'..

Thanks for posting that... Great information..

Have you tried to change directions, when this happens? Maybe not 180 degrees, but 90? or less? Maybe next time you can take her/him a bit further?

Any news?

I have used a Halti with a few of my past dogs, and it worked very well...

When I got Ben, I went for my regular vet (in the past) and asked about a crate for him... They said they didn't have any, and they were illegal here in Australia... I changed vets, after I got Ben... My previous vet also over serviced, which I didn't like. Enjoy your puppy! ETA... Ben doesn't want to drink during the night... When I go to the toilet, I let him out of his crate to have a drink, but he just wants to go back to sleep...

Could you try and feed her meals by hand?

That's a terrific video... unfortunately Ben doesn't even want to watch it

I was using the Advance one, and a rat gnawed straight through it Ahh... I use the one from Advance as a dirty clothes bin... All my rats are caged....