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expensive sunglasses in this house

Sway prefered the Brindle boy

No answers to our problem, we want them to play together again. I still think she turned him down

I'll add some more info, hopefully then we can sought out his issue. I think he has the hots for for her, and she said no At one stage in the cabin, Sway was behind me being kept in the room behind a chair with me sitting on it. Sway would put her head under the chair, Eddie would look at her and slink and almost pace. He was hard up against the cabinets, they were maybe 3-4mtrs away from each other. Sometimes he would come close and be ok, other times he would look at her, out the corner of his eye and go all sooky like. At one stage Sway climbed over me and was half standing the couch. At my feet was Eddie, she slipped and landed over him, but not on him. He started to growl, shake his head and it appeared to be like the play fighting he does with Molly. No harm was done to eaither dog. In sperate crates in the marquee he never had an issue with her. On a long line he never had an issue with her, but we kept them apart but they did get close 1mtr i would say. At one stage they had a play fight as they ran into each other. Any ideas??

Maybe the change in the household has unsettled him.

I think it's cute he is a big scardy cat

Come one what about the others where Eddie bolted on you :D I don't let Sway off, or i would be chasing her for a week!

Good point!

Iv'e taken that part out, thats how i see it aswell. This lady when i suggest she concentrate on one things (she asked for advice) And get it to a good/great level etc, she didn't seem to understand what i was getting at. Oh we do so much, we can't possibly be good at all of them. Yes she did say that Iv'e only met her once, this was a 5min conversation so i could be wrong

Tonight I had a brief chat on can a dog HANDLE more then one "sport" at a time? Be it show, flyball, agility, obedience etc I thought you would teach a dog one thing, get it to a good/great level, then maybe move onto the next. They said they do 3-4 things. I asked if the dog gets confused at times, they said yes. (this was obvious to me, just with some simple stuff they requested) Do you do more then one "sport" at a time with your dog? ( example you train for agility and flyball or obedience and flyball or agility and show etc. ) And if so why? If not why? My thoughts, I would like to be good/great at one thing, before we introduced another. Id rather be great at one thing, then sub-standard at 3-4 things. Hope that makes sense ETA spelling

That is so funny, not everything can be learnt at uni, it's been proven time and time again. But i get your point with your friend, give her a kick up the arse from me

Really? I've always got the impression that it was the other way around - I think sometimes busy parents simply don't have lots of time available to devote to socialising and training their dogs. In any case, I've met heaps of badly mannered dogs belonging to people that have kids or grandkids (including some really out of control, aggressive little terrors). I guess you can't make a fair or accurate generalisation that dogs normally have better (or worse) manners if their owners have kids. I find most parents with dogs, know what impact their (dog or kid) has on other people, they seem to be more intune with personal space, respect of the other person and more fine tunned with manners. Of course there is always the exception to the rule

I'd tell the person off , and the dog off and shorten the lead and remove them from the impact zone ;) So if they did jump, they couldn't make impact with the person. I would see that as wrong, and point it out to them. ;) Three years is not like, you let me do it 5min ago. I would also try and and correct the dog into the new rules. Harder i know, but many times rules have to be changed. Sometimes i invite it, but only if i know the dog and the owners are ok with it. It's would be when i first see them for the day. Like a rought up the head sort of thing, with the paws on my legs. Then if offered again, i would put my knee up, or hand to stop them and they are told no. By that stage SOME of there owners get the drift, others just seem clueless ;) If they were that bad, i would see many threads on them Oh yes don't like them either. I find alot of the behviours dogs offer or do, can be controlled by the owner. Sway likes to jump on people. She is corrected, told no, and then her lead is shortened so she can't do it. She is also pulled back from the conversation, so she is more behind me, and not beside me. I get embarrassed when she does it, and I don't catch her in time and she does actually jump on the person I feel terrible. I apologies, correct her, shorten her lead and remove her from the conversation. If at home is crated (laundry), at a show is crated or we move on.

Thats what i was looking for I think example is invited behaviour, and would deem that ok. That i woudn't like unless i asked for it that particular time. Thats offering behaviour, and hoping to get a reward. In that case i would say a pat like they did before. Thats what i like to see Oh no i don't know didly squat about your dogs. Im using you as an example, no one else has repsonded to it. It's not a personal thing, or a your dog thing. ;) And for the record i '"hate" and don't use the word hate very often, dogs that jump on people when not asked, and owners who do not correct them ;)

Should the person being jumped on, have to tell you your dogs behaviour is not acceptable to them? Who's responsability is it? (im using jumping as thats what we are on now, but i mean any unacceptable behaioour)

I dissagree - everybody wants 'socially acceptable' dogs as you would want to take your dog everywhere with you and for it to be a pleasure. You also want it to be a pleasure for those who encounter your dogs in public. I think many people forget that. This will vary person to person kids or not.

For the record i think ALL dogs should have social manners before anything else . By social manners i mean, not jumping on people, not stealing food, not bullying young kids etc Sociallly accetable dogs in my wording/eyes. Yet your let your dogs jump on people. My dogs have a fairly lenient jumping policy - when I get all excited with them, they can jump (unfortunately this carries over to other people too ) Agreed And that jumping imposes on others. Your back door is not in public, that doesn't effect the general public. Im talking about your dogs actions imposing on others. Not what they do at your house, or in your back yard.

The offer of behaviours is a horrible thing. Some do it as they crave attention, others do it because they think it will get them what they want, a treat. I carry a drool rag around for Sway now, it's not nice.

And if those actions impose on others, i think it's rude. What you do in your home, doesn't generally impose on the general public. A few examples. A dog show, yep you expect some noise barking etc, i can live with that. But whining for 4 hours straight, and not being corrected is rude and imposes on others. Letting your dog pee on peoples marquees, rude. Letting your dog badger people when they have food, rude. Jumping on people, rude.

And there are plenty of equally or worse behaved dogs that never leave their backyards. And as sad as that is, there actions don't impose on others.

The problem i see is, many want to compete, and they train for it. But they don't train for basic manners. I agree with that.

I think you are spot on there. It's almost like it's not required, so why bother to teach it. It seems the dogs can do anything they like, as long as they perform when the time is right. I find that hardest to deal with, we have met quite a few dog people, who have no kids. I would say on average there dogs are the worst. I would even go as far as to say, some of the owners have no respect for others. Maybe they have never had to think of there actions impacting on other people I woudn't let me kids jumps on you, yet you think it's ok for your dog to do it to me. My kids don't steal your food, so don't let your dog steal mine. Manners be it dog or child is important, even if there is no test or letters to be obtained.

If someone said to you they do Obedience what do you think? What is Obedience to you? Do you think some Obedience people, fail to train there dog social manners, as there is no test for it? ( added some and people to make it make more sence) And does your Obedience dog have the best social manners that it could have?? For the record i think ALL dogs should have social manners before anything else . By social manners i mean, not jumping on people, not stealing food, not bullying young kids etc Sociallly accetable dogs in my wording/eyes.

Sway is 8 months and doesn't sook in the middle of the night, but she does try and sneak onto the bed! She nudges you with her nose, then if no reaction puts the front paws on the bed, if nothing then slinks on over Would be ok if she slept at the bottom of the bed, Oh NO has to be in the middle ontop of the doona.