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what kind of inconvenience? which country are you relocating to? no there aren't any facilites who will rehome your dog for you, in the way that you imagine. How many years have you been in Aust?

can you make an appointment with this vet? I'd go in and ask him/her face to face and if they wouldn't tell me whether the dog was dead or not I'd point out that they were not so concerned about privacy when they were prepared to give out health updates. Re the owner: say you want an official certificate from the vet, stating that the pup is deceased - no different to a desexing or vaccination certificate. And until then you're not entering into any more correspondance. And while the pups exisitence is in 'limbo' he's not getting a sniff of the papers either.

I dont know those breeds so I have no idea - what characteristics does a BC have that an Aus Shep doesn't? Can they not be determined one from the other based on their characteristics and traits? I never knew that? How do they go in the working group line up? Do they ever look like there is two of the same breed in the group? I suppose we could do comparisons for all breeds and use bad examples of each and then who knows what the real breed actually is, would be kind of like a lucky dip .... The ANKC standards are quite different but there can easily be mistakes even with well bred examples. Yes, esp. in the showring does it often look like the same breed. And yeah there are quite a few breeds where you can mistake a dog as another similar breed. I guess that's why I asked because I don't think looking similar means things are the same. Okay I think there is a difference between being able to mistake a dog for another breed and ALWAYS having no idea and no means to tell if a dog is breed A or breed B. With Kangal and Anatolian you'd be guessing each time and you have no means to tell if a dog is registered Kangal or registered Anatolian. Do Amstaff & APBT fall into the genuine doppleganger category like KD/ASD or are they like BC and AusShep? If they are like BC & AusShep, what characteristics do AmStaffs have that APBT's dont?

I hope you now find a new vet?

I think you have a responsibility to determine whether your pup is still alive or not. Right now you only have supposition, and the word of someone you dont trust. Before I could black mark one of my pups from existence I'd want to know with absolute certainty that the pup was indeed dead.

I dont know those breeds so I have no idea - what characteristics does a BC have that an Aus Shep doesn't? Can a BC not be determined from an Aus Shep other based on characteristics and traits? I never knew that ... How do BCs and AusSheps go in the working group line up? Does it ever look like there is two of the same breed in the group? Has a judges ever mistaken them for being one or the other? Has a judge ever not know which breed he/she is looking at? (wrt the dog being a BC or AusShep) I suppose we could do comparisons for all breeds and use bad examples of each and then who knows what the real breed actually is, would be kind of like a lucky dip .... but on the whole - in general - can you ascertain an Amstaff from an APBT based on characteristics and traits? You cant ascertain Kangal from Anatolian from what I know you cant ascertain Amstaff from APBT. BUT AmStaff & APBT are not my penchant - so maybe there are charateristics that AmStaff's have which APBT dont ???

Re ascertaining if puppy is actually dead and/or cause of death: Get your vet to contact the owner's vet under the premise that you want to know whether the cause of death to the pup may have broader consequences for you as a breeder. Re bogan threats: Ignore them. Tell him that you know where he lives too so big woop. Re papers: Tough titties. Tell him as per rules and regulations they are being sent in to Dogs Vic as the pup has died. It doesn't matter that he bought the pup, your the official owner of the papers according to Dogs Vic, so when you receive them from DogsVic, send them back via express post and marked 'dog now decased'. Re pup reimbursement: Send him a refund for the purchase cost of the pup only. In the name of good will and your ethics as a breeder. Close chapter

This. I love APBTs too and I do not see them as a lost cause....however, Amstaffs are a different breed. All dogs share the same DNA, you just breed for different characteristics and traits. Amstaffs and ABPTs have different characteristics and traits. Both are great dogs however. Oh, I voted no. Can you look at a dog which might be an Amstaff or APBT and ascertain from its appearance what it's actual breed is? ie: what physical traits do AmStaffs have that APBT's dont, which allow an AmStaff to be identified from APBT?

It depends on how you define 'breed' and probably the only people who's opinion on this really matter ie: those qualified to 'know' are those who know the bloodlines and the dogs history very well.

You have a point when you are talking about a rare breed that is mostly from imports. In this case all your puppies should be more expensive to cover some of your costs but obviously pet buyers will only pay so much. Therefore I imagine you have to set a more reasonable pet price and try to compensate by charging a premium for breeding stock being sought by others. Fair enough. If others want to benefit from your imports they should have to pay for them. For those of us with common breeds where the bloodlines are pretty much the same if you go back 5 or 6 generations there can be no real justification for charging higher main register prices. Mystiqview, Libertybrook and I all have Border Collies so our perspective is different to yours. Australian Borders are exported to the world who all look to us for foundation stock. Imports are extremely rare and usually not sought after because they usually don't measure up to what we already have. Also showing Borders is extremely competitive and it is almost impossible to encourage any new exhibitors, so the last thing we want to do is discourage anyone from trying by charging them a higher price for a puppy with show potential. There are so few show homes available for the many show quality puppies produced that breeders will often place a promising puppy at no charge in an established show home in order to get it in the ring. Having puppies with our prefix succeed is the main objective. If others then benefit from breeding from them so much the better. We don't have people jealously guarding bloodlines because the lines are all mixed up anyway. Ah yes okay I see from my perspective, the dogs that have created history or set the foundation for the breed are outside of Australia, ie: Russia, Belorus, Turmenistan, Ukraine etc so for breeders in other countries, imports from renowned kennels/lineages in these countries are valued. (I wasn't just talking of my puppies I was thinking of excellent breeders o/s whose consistency and type I might aspire to.) of course, lesson 101 in dog breeding/procurring but from what I know you can't go looking for excellent examples of dogs and expect to go bargain hunting. You might find the dog you like at a bargain basement price, but it will cost you a lot more to bring that dog to Aust. Perhaps what is also relevant is the average cost / complication / time / assocated risks to import. An import from Turkmenistan / Ukraine / Belorus etc is difficult to do and takes at least 12 months. Its not just the cost, it's the investment of time and the logistics involved. Probably why I take umbrage to the slapstick label of profiteering. If English is your first language or you dont know the country where your dog is from intimately, you're risking thousands until the dog is actually boarded on the bus/car/train and on its way. So when you benefit from a quality pup from such an import, it's not just the numerical figure that was outlayed, it's everything that was put on the line to export them from their country of origin - and the risk the importer incurred, that the financial investment made might not eventuate / exist or disappear.

You expect to pay the same price for a breed potential imported lineage pup on main registry, or a pup from a renowned kennel esteemed for producing consistent trademark type, for the same price as their pet limited-reg counterparts? If not, it is profiteering and all about morals? Hmm thats an interesting perpective, I'm thinking of a few kennels whom I now might just ask for a discount based on that ethos ... see what puppy I end up with the cheek of me wanting their bloodlines and the years of their expertise and trained eye, to benefit my learning and my dogs but I dont want to pay for it uh-huh bcz if they were breeders with morals, they would sell me their standout pup representing their breeding effort for the same price as a pet ... ??? With Main reg you are not only buying a dog, you are buying its pedigree, and you expect that pedigree to also benefit the future breeding and standing of your own dogs, else you would not seek it.

They are. They are getting the best breed quality pup of the litter, that is marked as having the most potential to contribute to the future of the breed. The family with young children will get the best pup suited to a family in suburban environment. And the retired couple lving in woop woop will get the best puppy suited to a family home in a rural environment. But its the standout pup going to the potential breeding home thats has a premium price because thats the pup that represents the bloodlines, and is an asset to the breed/owner. They are buying the import lineage, the breeders eye, the breeders work and diligence - in the hope that it will also benefit their breeding. Refund or replacement or refund of price differential on desexing. ie Limited Reg price as if it had been sold to a home where it was not intended for breeding.

I dont understand this concept, as a reason why not to charge more for show/potential pups on Full Reg Yes it costs the same to have a litter but pet homes aren't buying a potential show/breed dog. They're not buying the bloodlines of the dog the same way another breeder is. oh hey look how late it is, I'll just cut and paste ... When you buy a puppy on full register, a puppy that is the standout from its littermates, you are buying the breeder's work, good will, love and diligence to the breed. I wont part with a standout puppy on full register for pet price - no way. Pet homes get the same price ($1000-$1500 cheaper than show/breed homes) whether domestic or international bloodlines. But full register, potential breeders, you wont puchase a puppy that cost 10-20K to put on the the ground and expect to get much change from $3000. HOWEVER if that standout pup does not fulfill the owners and my expectations of what is breed/show worthy its refund or replacement, or refund of cost differential once pup is desexed.

Rightyo many breeders will charge more for a show/breed potential puppy to go on Full register than if the same puppy was to be sold as a pet (ie on Limited Reg). (NOTE: this is not the same as charging a less amount for a pet puppy and then charging more to put the same puppy on Full Register ie show/breed papers). Yes some breeders charge the same whether the show/breed potential pup is sold as a pet (Limited Reg.) or Show/breed (Full Register), but many dont. When you buy a puppy on full register, a puppy that is the standout from its littermates, you are buying the breeder's work, good will, love and diligence to the breed. I wont part with a standout puppy on full register for pet price - no way. Pet homes get the same price ($1000-$1500 cheaper than show/breed homes) whether domestic or international bloodlines. But full register, potential breeders, you wont puchase a puppy that cost 10-20K to put on the the ground and expect to get much change from $3000. HOWEVER if that standout pup does not fulfill the owners and my expectations of what is breed/show worthy its refund or replacement, or refund of cost differential once pup is desexed. To the OP: A breeder who might slap on $500 give or take pending the market and what you are willing to pay might not make for a good choice. Though like so many other things, so much is breed specific. So really your best guage to what is 'normal', is what other breeders do with the same breed and the same type in the same country (and even then), rather than what other breeders do with their breeds/pups. There is no one hard and fast ethical measuring stick that's applicable to all.

Come on back Jane. We need you, can't fix the slack on my own Thoughts and Prayers

Anatolian Caucasian Central Asian Komondor Borzoi Clumber Spaniel Catahoula Dont need any others

Cryogenes

I don't think there was a "no pets" message. I think it was aimed more at people who are likely to buy a BYB puppy from a pet store then people who post/read a pure bred dog community forum. No one in my household (minus the dogs) eats meat, wears anything from an animal, or supports animal testing - I don't think it's such an absurd concept. If we apply the concept, and cease meat production will you then go out and kill an animal to provide meat for your dog?

OP looking for one dog that is NOT high energy, content to be left on its own for a bit, tractable, friendly and protective if needed. Not a staffy

okay thankyou. will do

Thanks HH pup(s) are coming from non-AQIS approved countries so am using Finland as intermediary. I will contact Scandipets - thankyou I have contacted domestic carriers (ie Jetpets) but they seemed at a loss wrt Ukraine/Siberia/Belorussia as ultimate country of origin and wanted to charge exhorbatant interpretor fees which are not necessary.

Exactly furballs. In all the pet homes or 'General Public' that may contact me overall I am humbled by the impression that they are dog owners who want to do the best for their pet - their lifelong friend, their new family member; but to their detriment, the GP's best intentionss are manipulated by what popular mantra dictates. Let's be fair (and honest) compulsory desexing is not in the interests of the individual pet owner - we can feed them lots of campaign line crap about how not desexing their dog contributes to the numbers of dogs pts each year, but RSPCA stats and studies tell a different story. Responsible owners should be cherished and given the benefit of the doubt - assuming they are all vegies in the dollard patch is insulting and fails to see the importance and value of dogs in society. Notwithstanding the compassion and capacity for learning of better practise, that their owners have and aspire to. Animal Rights want the vote of the compassionate and learned animal onwers but at the same time they wish to condemn them unintelligent and incapable of choosing what is best for their canine family member. This is incongruous. To care takes compassion. To have compassion requires empathy and an understanding of the dog you call your own. And it is this bond that is being manipulated by vote buyers and rockumentary agenda pushers.