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I doubt she will remember the male 7 month old as her son. He will be to her, an adolescent male, at best vaguely familiar. worst case scenario: Even if they fight it wont be that serious as the other dog is a younger male. Even if she 'dominates' him they will still be company for each other. Generally younger males, as long as they are not aiming for their own ascendancy, will happily follow the rules and the way of an older bitch. But then I dont know your breed and what you expect as normal from them. If I was in the same situation, most of my anxiety would be stemming from rehoming interstate, and the associated problems of logistics if assistance or intervention was needed

I'd argue unless it affects a dogs lifespan or quality of life then it's not a problem. If individuals from a group of dogs, live on avergae 12 - 16yo and are active for most of that time who cares what the hips 'score' is? The dogs breed naturally, they can jump and they can run. They can live out on their own. Does it matter what the score on their hip is? What about if we said, no breeding from dogs whose sibling or parent has died from bloat. Or whose sibling or dam/sire had died of cancer at less than 6 years old. Or maybe we could add the above to the Hip xray and Elbow xray requirements.

why?

Some are family dogs in the burbs. Some are terrorising their owners on their way to get to the meterman (private joke from the LGD forum). Some are patrolling open range in the middle of nowhere. Some are dual citizens, night time with the chickens, day time with their family. ETA: Looks domestic to me - Last seen at Parkdale Beach Cafe, enjoying orange cake and cream:

He works there and has 84 dogs? Regardless if he is a registered breeder or BYB or puppy farmer He must have some good $$$ to pay for ppl to clean feed, socialise the dogs etc Because looking after that many dogs doing basic care would take an 8hr day (and yes i can speak from experience after working in a facility for 2yrs) Maybe he does. So what? Who said the way I or anyone else might run 20 odd or 60 odd ++ dogs operates anywhere near the same way as the facility that you worked for?

I would argue that dogs have not lived in "packs" as wild canines for a LONG time. Domestic dogs were "created" about 15,000 years ago. Since then they have had a very close relationship with humans. This relationship has deepened further in the last 2,000+ years as breeds were developed (via selective breeding etc) and yet again in the Victorian Era. Dogs are NOT wild animals and have not been for a very long time. They were developed by humans to preform certain functions - guarding stock, helping care for livestock, companions, hunting dogs etc etc. Dogs were developed to work closely with humans - this meant bonding between humans and dogs and largely humans would only have kept small numbers of dogs (after-all feeding too many animals would be costly - especially when food was scarce). Large scale operations are a relatively RECENT occurrence. They have gotten very popular for money-making schemes. Large kennels can only function properly if they are well-funded and have a large staff. This does not mean that all people with large numbers of dogs are "farmers" BUT rarely does someone do it well or properly. I would argue that for domestic dogs to function properly they need a close relationship with humans - from a young age - this means a low dog to human ratio. Even working dogs that might not be allowed inside will have a close bond with their owner - of should imo. This is the reason why I think dogs should be kept in smaller numbers. Lets look at why people keep dogs now - largely as pets. Pets need to be socialized for them to fit into our lives (which are rapidly becoming more urban). Unsocialised dogs get dumped because they don't make as good pets (most of the time). Many unsocialised dogs/puppies come from large scale operations that sell to pet shops or via the internet - they may be able to recover (i.e. socialised by the owner) but sometimes the up-bringing and lack of human contact at a young age has already limited the puppy/dog and it's temperament is compromised. You seem to know a lot about how I should raise my dogs. I live on my own - what's my optimal dog ownerhship ratio?

I agree with this.....I'd imagine 84 dogs to be a full time job. I would be a bit worried. Guys sometimes have wives and family. Steve stop mucking around! They do not You know they're only posing as family so they can get illegal tax breaks on their puppy farming operation!

I was just considering the possibilty that my perceptions of Australia were skewed and I must be a crazy, disgruntled Libertine in love, to not want to call Australia home any more. But I tune back in and yep, the small-mind-from-a-big-place mentality seems to be alive, ripe and well! [btw who cares how many dogs someone has why are you so ready to stick your nose in and judge? Oh that's roight ... it's your moral perogative yeah yeah] If you notice, I didnt make a positive or negative judgement in my OP. I said that to me that sounds like alot of dogs. I am not a breeder, so I honestly dont know if 84 is a 'normal' amount for a regular breeder to have, which is why I asked "Surely he was exaggerating...right?". It was a legitimate question. Australia is a free country, you can ask what you like. Isn't it?

I find it small minded to judge a country based on a small selection of people I will never judge a country based on a few of its citizens, nor will I ever dislike someone based on their nationality. I prefer to judge people based on who they are as a individual. Regardless of race, colour or creed. I think I have known Australia and its dog scene and general populace ethos, long enough to make a comparative judgement about the Australian sense of Nationality Vs the individual. You can judge people how you like. (ps: It's norty of me to say, but your "I prefer to judge based on individuality, creed, colour, blah" is so predictably Australian PC, I love it! )

I was just considering the possibilty that my perceptions of Australia were skewed and I must be a crazy, disgruntled Libertine in love, to not want to call Australia home any more. But I tune back in and yep, the small-mind-from-a-big-place mentality seems to be alive, ripe and well! [btw who cares how many dogs someone has why are you so ready to stick your nose in and judge? Oh that's roight ... it's your moral perogative yeah yeah]

Yes Mark Singer The brindle girl is going very well, it's Jean Val Jean, from Shahrazad that is holding his family to ransom. At just 6 months old and actively challenging the husband (snarling and growling when he enters a room), it is not a good sign. I believe JVJ is too assertive and energetic for the home but we will see.

Thankyou KHM, I have just got off the phone from the home - they need intervention now If anyone can the dog and family in this situation, Mark can

Ah, that explains it - He hasn't actually seen the good work of the LDH! The home has used the funds to buy a factory, 50 metres from the Gracie Street complex, to be converted into its new private vet clinic. It will be named after Mr Samways. how nice. The funds wil be used to build more private practise to help animals who already have homes, and of course, who can bring in more revenue to the LDH. Wouldn't want to use a cent of the bequest to go towards building facilities for any LOST animals in need of care? Nooo. Oh well doesn't matter. Benefactors dont seem to venture indoors anyway.

Can someone send me the details for a trainer in SA called Mark??? I forget his last name sorry, (and have referred him to puppy homes before but my brain is defunct ) I have a puppy home in SA with an Anatolian that need help ASAP. HA Thank you

If the dominant dogs behaviour was going to exert any influence over the other bitches, I think it would happen earlier ie the other bitches would not have a season while in the presence of the dominant female. I don't know what breed you have, but I wonder how strong this instinct breeding behaviour would be in breeds whose breeding selection has been controlled by humans in most aspects

AUSTRALIA WIDE RSPCA BRANCHES AND SHELTERS 1999-2000 DOGS RECEIVED - 67,204 EUTHANISED - 26,339 (39.2%) REHOMED - 21,415 (31.9%) RECLAIMED - 15,323 (22.8%) AUSTRALIA WIDE RSPCA BRANCHES AND SHELTERS 2009 - 2010 DOGS RECEIVED - 68,746 EUTHANISED - 20, 177 (29.4%) REHOMED - 19,007 (27.6%) RECLAIMED - 24,223 (35.2%) ** RSPCA killed less dogs not as a result of rspca 'work' but because more owners reclaimed their pets. RSPCA actually rehomed LESS dogs in 2009-2010 than in 1999-2000. RSPCA NSW deserve a special mention of merit in 1999-2000 they received 20,631 dogs, killed 44.7% of them and Rehomed 36.5%. Ten years later despite all the chicken littles ... RSPCA NSW received 20,619 dogs [they transferred 709 to other non RSPCA facilities], killed 40.5% of them and rehomed 24.8%.

There is data from 10 years ago. And the RSPCA is doing no more (actually less) than it did then.

Using the Education system to influence community values and policy development is in some of the RSPCA early 2000s Fin Reports, as part of their future objectives etc. These days you can find the evolved version in their 2011 objectives - To prevent cruelty to animals by ensuring the enforcement of existing laws at federal and state level. To procure the passage of such amending or new legislation as is necessary for the protection of animals. To develop and promote policies for the humane treatment of animals that reflect contemporary values and scientific knowledge. To educate the community with regard to the humane treatment of animals. To engage with relevant stakeholders to improve animal welfare. To sustain an intelligent public opinion regarding animal welfare. To operate facilities for the care and protection of animals Basically the RSPCA tell Australians what is enlightened and then Australians agree to put their 'contemporary' thinking system in place. I guess people in Australia aren't that bright when it comes to some things. We're an apologist bunch with not much backbone.

As long as your dog/puppy is predisposed to clicker training, then I don't think age will matter

Good Luck Nicolatu, how exciting! Are you flying the same Airline as your dog? If you're flying Philipine airlines, you could call their customer service and explain you're worried about your dog's transit - maybe there will be some way for you or your agent to receive feedback that your dog is okay? In Ankara I was fretful and worried for my two puppies who were traveling with me. A lovely lady from Qatar Airlines ground staff (who I'd be speaking to), boarded the plane just before departure, to tell me in person that my puppies were now on board in the air-conditioned cargo (with their water and were doing fine ) and that Qatar ground staff in Doha had been contacted, so the puppies would have fast transfer on arrival - it was hot in Turkey but it was 40C and humid at 9pm in Doha .

Most airlines require dogs to be shipped as cargo/freight. Basically anything that can't go through the passenger terminal and into the passenger cabin, is classed as cargo/freight. (This is why I find it amusing that Uzbekistan lets you take monkeys and dogs on board, and in Ankara when I produce my passport I also produce my puppies' passport, and they go through the xray scanner machine with me lol :D Doha airport is much like Melbourne airport wrt rules and regulations, and my dogs stay in the cargo area and that's it.) My point is, that except for a few countries, most international airports operate like MEL/SYD/PER and Jet Pets are correct that all dogs ex. Australia travel as freight, but that is only half the story. There is a big difference flying with my dog and paying $600, than utilizing the service of an agent and paying $3000. If the Airline allows you to transport your dog at the excess baggage freight rate, you should not use an agent as you will pay a lot more. Yep, exactly my point as I said "I would expect that if I travel with my dog, I would pay for them as excess baggage but only if I don't require an agent. If I travel with my dog and still require an agent I would not expect to pay the excess baggage rate. This is why I've tried so hard to find an airline that does not require an agent but every airline that goes to TW does. " It seems a little more complicated to go to Macau though. Good luck OP Edited. Excuse the lack of clarity. Japan Airlines does not require you to use an agent. http://www.jal.co.jp/en/inter/service/pet/ You can fly direct Australia to Japan and then to Taiwan. Japan is also considered rabies free by TW, so there will be no quarantine issue on arrival.

Cathay Pacific: http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_AU/helpingyoutravel/pets www.cathaypacificcargo.com/common/contentDoc/Pet_Shipping.pdf Not sure what you are trying to say? In the 2nd link you provided it says pets as excess baggage are not available for pets travelling to Australia, HK, NZ, South Africa, Taiwan or UK as well as transiting HK where govts do not permit it. Be it as excess baggage or cargo they will still be in cargo it seems. maybe my post above explains?

Most airlines require dogs to be shipped as cargo/freight. Basically anything that can't go through the passenger terminal and into the passenger cabin, is classed as cargo/freight. (This is why I find it amusing that Uzbekistan lets you take monkeys and dogs on board, and in Ankara when I produce my passport I also produce my puppies' passport, and they go through the xray scanner machine with me lol :D Doha airport is much like Melbourne airport wrt rules and regulations, and my dogs stay in the cargo area and that's it.) My point is, that except for a few countries, most international airports operate like MEL/SYD/PER and Jet Pets are correct that all dogs ex. Australia travel as freight, but that is only half the story. There is a big difference flying with my dog and paying $600, than utilizing the service of an agent and paying $3000. If the Airline allows you to transport your dog at the excess baggage freight rate, you should not use an agent as you will pay a lot more.

Cathay Pacific: http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_AU/helpingyoutravel/pets www.cathaypacificcargo.com/common/contentDoc/Pet_Shipping.pdf