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Sorry guys, I've not been in here for a few days... Just to answer you all individually... DDD yes there are 3 I'm thinking of too, I will have to catch up with them, at the next show, gauge the enthusiasm... Along with other breeders with dogs affected by deafness. TSD, thank you so much for that offer, give me a few months, and I might be contacting you :) ... No shows down here till Aug, and not friends on FB with a few of the people I need to contact. Showdog, yep living with constant frustration down here. Vet prices are exorbitant, along with all pet supplies, fresh fruit and vegies etc, etc... This Baer machine issue has been going on for many years, and it's just knock-back, (read disinterest), after knock-back, after knock-back ... RuralPug, as far as I'm aware there is only a B. C. Club of Tas, no other single breed club, affected by deafness down here. I will contact them, though, see if I can get their help/input. Again, unfortunately our one and only Uni does not have Veterinary Science available for us down in Tassie... I hadn't thought of sponsorship, but that IS something I could look into... I love living down here, mostly, but at times like this, I could move to the 'big island' in a heartbeat, lol...

TSD, we have previously tried to get a couple of different Vets to purchase a Baer Machine, and then train up a few staff members to read the info, but unfortunately it was all a bit too hard, and apparently too expensive to purchase, for the limited amount of breeders, (i. e. Dally, Bull Terrier, ACD etc), that would use it. I'm off to vaccinate my babies on Monday, so I might actually ask again, see what outcome might come from that. It was just sooo frustrating. Might talk to some breeders at the next show, and talk to Dogs Tasmania as well.

I have a litter of 8, nearly 8 week old ACD's, and I am an ethical reg breeder. I'm in Tassie, and unfortunately we do not have a Baer machine here, so unless I pop my unvaccinated 6-8 week old babies, on a plane and go to Victoria, (at great expense), I'm not able to Baer test them. (Clearly this is against C of E, and Airlines would not accept them, either). I did find someone who would travel with their portable machine at my expense, from Vic, but they could only do it when the babies were 4 weeks old. This is too young, so we were not able to have them done. Mum has been Baer tested as bilateral full hearing, Dad is untested. I do have one sweet girl who is deaf, discovered at about 4 weeks, and there was much heart v's head decisions to be made about her. Eventually we decided not to PTS, and as of today, she appears to have found the perfect home. This is only the second deaf pup we have bred, the first being in our 1st litter, a plain faced red girl. This girl now has double face masks, which suprised me a little, as it's often the plain faced pups that are deaf. I don't know if there are any pups with unilateral hearing, but I know the rest have good enough hearing. I would Baer test in a heart-beat, if I had access to a machine. The disadvantages on living on an island .

I concur with Allerzeit, and second Graham Moate, he's a genius...

I have sent more than a few Thyroid blood samples from Tassie to Dr Jean Dodds. I have done exactly what Ernie has said, but I have sent them myself from the local PO. All but the last one, I haven't had a problem sending, with full disclosure. The last one I sent, the PO near my Vet, suddenly did have an issue with sending it, and refused. I just went to another PO, with full disclosure, and they were fine, but, the sample never turned up... I haven't tried again since then, but I will be doing more again shortly... Good luck, it's not really hard for the Vet, so long as you print out all the appropriate forms. Hope you get some answers for your boy..

I bred an ACD bitch who was diagnosed with a liver shunt. Diagnosed at 6 months, and pts at 6 1/2 months, as there was nothing we did that helped her. Never bred her parents again, as thought to be genetic. Luckily we owned her, none of bro/sis was diagnosed with it, as far as I was able to find out. IMHO it's a problem in the breed, but getting breeders to talk about it, at the time, was near on impossible. Easier to bury their heads in the sand, than to talk about it ... Good luck in her diagnosis...

Ok just an update... Well things were starting to look more promising, she was beginning to walk a little better on a Halti, (mmmm not my choice), starting to 'get' toilet training, and appeared to be 'coming around' with her new owner... Then................. A huge step backwards in the last few days, when the rain came, any toilet training was completely forgotten, (she had to clean up after her 6 times yesterday alone, with the back door open all day), as well as 'turning off' the new owner again, has led to us both believing that she will be better off coming home to us. I just don't get her, but will be welcoming her back to our pack, as soon as we have organised her flights back home. I know her brother will be very happy to see her again.

My apologies Her Majesty Dogmad, I forgot to answer your reply... I will be copy and pasting this great info to the new owner, and I can only hope that Inka's bad toilet issues will improve with this routine... Thank you :)

Thanks for the replies... I'm still waiting to hear back from the new owner, (have had issues with emails not getting through to her, so I've resent it early this morning), re where she is living, so I can get recommendations about a behaviorist... Haredown, I see your point, but, I just want to give both the owner and Inka every chance to work out, and I'm hoping a behaviorist assessment will give us some answers, about her behaviour. It may be issues that she can't /won't overcome, then she will be on the next plane home. RuralPug, you bring up some really interesting points. Yes she definitely had a routine here, quite a strict one actually, (Basenji's need and do very well with a strict routine), so possibly this is something she's not getting, leading to her being quite confused. I really don't believe there is any cruelty or nastiness at all. I'm usually very good at picking people at first meeting and I did get very good vibes, meeting Inka's owner. Yes they are very intuned to body language , they may ignore it, but they do understand it, lol... Thanks for gour input, you have given me a few things to think about, and to ask her owner as well... NILIF is also something to possibly introduce, perhaps after the behaviorist appointment.

Yes, exactly Perse, just stuns me tbh... We took this girl to Melbourne with us, and met this gentle, sweet, quietly spoken lady, possibly in her early 70's, but very spritely. She has recently lost a human aggressive Basenji, who came to her that way, and has had many dogs, especially Basenji's throughout her life. So she knows this primitive breed well... She wants to work with her at this stage, but we are both willing to concede defeat at any time, and then she will come back to us forever...

Ok so not quite a puppy problem, as such... I have just re-homed a young, (22 months), Basenji bitch from us in Tassie, to a Basenji savvy home, of a single lady, in Melbourne. She has been there since 2nd March. Was told she was settling in ok, although being a little shy. Eating well, getting on ok with her 2 cats etc. Just received an email from the lady that Inka now won't let her owner near her, won't even take treats from her at all. The lady has her daughter staying with her at the moment, and it seems that Inka is bonding more with the daughter than the owner. Her daughter is closer in appearance to my daughters, so im not sure if that has any bearing on her decision to bond with the daughter. She will be moving back to her own home shortly, and is unable to take Inka with her. The new owner is concerned about how Inka will be when her daughter moves out. Understandably... Added to this is Inka's toilet training that she had, has deteriorated to the point that she is just weeing in the house, even with the back door left open??? She was pretty well trained here, used to run to the door, and stand and stare at me/us to let her out. Occasionally she was 'naughty', (or perhaps it was us not seeing her), but was good most of the time. Another issue is she is pulling very badly on the lead when taken out for a walk, to the point that the daughter has been pulled over. This small, petite young girl has been shown, socialised etc, from a baby. We bred her, so she has been out and about from a young pup. We haven't had issues with her on the lead I just don't know what to say. I'm absolutely gutted, can't believe what she is doing, what she is putting her new owner through. This little girl has always been very confident, taking everything we have thrown at her, all in her stride. She has been taking out and about a lot, shown regularly, socialised a lot, but is now displaying this odd, out of character behaviour. I'm waiting to find out where this lady lives, so hopefully we could hire a DOL behaviourist to see this little girl, and give both her owner and myself some answers. Her owner has wondered if some Obedience Training will be the thing to help with bonding between them??? Thoughts??? Recommendations ???? I have asked the owner to hang off doing anything till I get back to her... Anybody got any idea's on Inka's behaviour???? I'm just stunned, gutted, by her problems, just don't know what to advise her, and I'm hoping someone here can make me see some sense in all this. Apologies for rambling, and I'm hoping I make some sense. TIA.

Why, oh why, do we need to have 2 out of the 3 judges who have judged in Australian Royals in 2009 and 2012, come back AGAIN ???? When was the other judge last here??? Same old, same old...

Thanks tommyspazz, will check that out...

Just wondering if anyone knows of farmstays around KCC Park, similar the the 2 above???

Thanks everyone, I 'think' we have it all sorted... Soooooo badly need an Aus wide m/c database ... Its bloody ridiculous what the new owner and I have gone through to get this sorted. I must have rung 50 different places to get the details i needed, to get forms filled in, frigging spent half of yesterday, and most of this arvo ringing, emailing etc, etc...

Ok here is the story. Bitch born in 2009, in NSW, m/c up there by the breeder, and registered on the NSW Companion Animal Register (CAR). Came down to me in Tassie, where I filled out a Change of Owner/Detail form from CAR. I then received a NSW CAR Certificate of Identification, with all my details on it. I have now sold this bitch to Qld, and the new owner needs to transfer her over to her name and details. Tried today to get onto the CAR website, to either find a phone number to ring about changing her details, or finding a form to download. Nope couldn't find either one, can't actually get into their website at all. So I'm seeing something about local council, so rang them, and they gave me the phone number for Central Animal Records. I rang them, explained what I needed, but her m/c number wasn't found. They sent me by email a form, which apparently I don't even need to fill out or sign, etc, I just send it up to the new owner to fill out, and they pay a fee, and bingo she's now in the data-base with the new owners details... Does this sound right ??? Why don't I need to sign anything??? I'm wondering if the lady I spoke to thinks she isn't registered, so thats what the fee is for, to put her on the m/c data-base??? Apologies if I'm sounding dumb about this, just not sure if I have the correct form

Rawlinson here too...

I'm feeling your pain, indigirl... I have a very sweet and lovely 18 month bitch I have for sale, and I have had soooo many tyrekickers and 1 liners about her... I launch into info about her etc, etc, tons of time spent answering q's etc, only to have them go all quiet, I email asking if they are still interested in her "Oh no decided a Basenji isn't for me", that's IF they bother to get back to me at all... Ummm, when exactly did you decide, and were you going to let me know, or am I supposed to read your f*#+ing mind ... Just sooo sick of it. Sorry rant over. I think I will do a generic email as well, not something I've thought about doing...

OMFG, I've never seen a bigger load of crap delivered about the ACD... FFS there are 2, I repeat 2, colours in the PUREBRED ACD, red and blue... Yes different shades of both colours, but they come under the same colour, red or blue... Thats all there is, no purple, chocolate, auburn or tiger coloured etc, etc... They are just a bunch of crossbred mutts, thats all, don't even look like ACD's, as far as I'm concerned... Bastardisation of a wonderful breed ... Don't even get me started on toys or minis,

I call them Cattle Dogs, but I didn't realise Heeler would be offensive Most working ACDs I know get called heelers Yep most farmers call them Heelers, but its wrong, it's not the correct name for them now, it's ACD, as above... My 2 Lanbart ACD's would be verrrry offended if anyone called them a Heeler :D...

Australian Cattle Dogs = Australian Cattle Dogs or Cattle Dogs NOT Heeler, Blue Heeler, Qld, (or any other state, but Qld is the most said), Heeler, Eeler, (and thats clearly the absolute worst), Red Heeler, Blue Heeler etc, etc.... Actually the most annoying is Healer, they dont heal you ...

If you do the thyroid testing, as mentioned above by dogbesotted, send the bloods to Jean Dodds. I dont think that most of those tests can be done in Australia, at all... Best of luck...

Hi Wayne, Would you be able to post up what that includes, please??? Is it the Vet Cert, stating that the animal is free from disease, and well enough to travel, etc, etc???

:thumbsup: Your kids (4 and 2 legs) are doing so well! Thanks Tassie, very happy with the 4 leggeds, and Imogen, (and Taylor, who is wonderful about stepping in at very short notice, lol), is showing them really well...

I just have to have a brag too... My young Basenji boy, Zuka, Langarni African Bintu, was Junior in Group, at Launceston Royal ....