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Glad to here alls well Rural pug...just one thing, cool coats dont work like that..the idea is you soak them put them on the dog and the coat draws the heat from the dog, they are not designed to be drenched. :) What a shame you didnt catch up with Tentie and the BBQ when you got to the show.

That is such a wide open area...praying the best thing to happen is someone picks her up and takes her to the pound...has Missymoo left msgs at the Geelong pound?

Do you know how many unsuspecting pug puppy owners are talked into such surgeries by their vets...makes the statistics that people insist on quoting and referring to rather untrustworthy....just saying :) Always check with the dogs breeder to see if that line has that particular problem.

Sorry to hear that Tentie...wasnt Rural Pug at the show?

Everytime I am at our vet in Bendigo Greyhound people drop greys off for pts cos they arent fast enough...the gutless ones take them in the back door, some come in via the waiting room...they are magnificent, beautiful examples of their breed...I wonder how many of them try and home them with Gap?

Do rego pending and as soon as you get let the secs know. ;) ;) ;) thats what I am doing...costing $68 for 24 hr reg and as soon as I have the number I am ringing the sec. :)

Arent the Bendigo shows inside the Exhibition Centre? I wouldnt think you would need a brolly Lilli. I am entered for the Sat arvo show...so will see you there.

Bluefairy...I will tell you a story...12mths ago I had a lovely family come to look at a pug puppy. They had 2 lovely kids, a 12 yr old and a 9 yr old girls. They came inside, as soon as the younger girl saw the adult pugs she started screaming...Pugs started running thinking there was something really scary cos the skinkid was going off. She was happy to have the 8 week old puppy on her lap. The family were happy that she could do that. They bought the puppy, named him Chester and I now get photots with the younger girl doing all the doggy things and happy to do the doggy things, so a big step forward in accepting PUGs in her life.

No Locust this year, and I got my sat numbers last thursday.

LOL

Is it a decent sized shed or a small one? Just wondering how crowded it will be as I've never been before It was that full of Sheep at the Bendigo wool and sheep show you couldnt see from one end to the other....ya talking Massive.

They would have been getting wet when Pugs were on....

The last time I was at the showgrounds it was for the Agi show and we were on the oval...and then before that it hadnt been built. :) Ta

If you factor in the winds it takes it to an 80- Extreme on the fire index.

dont be silly, sandgrubber. Where is the story if you leave out the bits about puppies. Isnt it funny how the actual charges are not much more than an afterthought but the article's full focus is on dog meat. As far as I'm aware, eating dog is not actually illegal. As Steve said, only if you cut the tail off before killing it. Reads like a total beat up by a journo who is probably a blind follower of oscar's claptrap. Sure take out the puppies, but there are still other livestock involved. Do you know the actual suburbs of Melton/Rockbank Raz? You want it, you name it...you'll find it in Melton/Rockbank.

Are these shows on the oval or actually in the huge shed? Ta

You know what would really hurt these people that break the rules is....Take 5 pts off them, they have to pick the dog that loses the points.

Yes, members of our community now. And they will find no shortage of different types of meat to eat in this community; meat that has been legally butchered in proper conditions and to proper standards. What happens in their country of origin STAYS in their country of origin - when it comes to eating dogs. Dogs are not an animal that are bred in this country as a source of nutrition for humans or other animals, and this needs to be clearly communicated to any newcomers. I am all for enjoying the benefits of multiculturism - but not the barbarism, thank you. Souff Obviously by the report Souff this practice is happening now.

This has to be an early April Fools joke!!! They being the powers to be wont allow cattle in the high plains because of the damage their hooves do!! And they wont allow people in to get the dead trees and branches off the forest floor because of "habitat".

Yes I agree...but these are members of our community now....are we to have one rule for them and one for us? As Steve said it will be interesting to see how this particualar event goes.

Apparently in Korea they farm and eat dog regular....to them dog is no different to us eating cows...which are sacred in Asia so whats the difference....we are a multi cultural nation.

Thats what I first picked up on too...contradicting as usual.

http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2012/02/01/437321_latest-news.html EXCLUSIVE: UNWANTED kittens and pups may be dumped or destroyed due to sweeping new animal laws. It is now illegal to advertise animals "free to good home" unless they have costly microchips implanted. TELL US WHAT YOU THINK Are the Government's new pet laws a good idea? VOTE NOW READ MORE: Dog breeders lobby for amnesty EDITORIAL: Laws a dogs breakfast CARTOON: Rule's View Have Your Say in the form below And breeders of working dogs believe they are now operating as outlaws and are liable to fines of more than $20,000. They have called for an immediate amnesty to give the Government time to exempt farm dogs from the crackdown on illegal puppy farms. Combined with mandatory de-sexing, pet owners face up to $1000 to prepare a litter for sale to abide with the Government's new version of the Domestic Animals Act. All cats and dogs must now be microchipped before they are sold or given away. All cats and dogs aged three months or over must be registered with a local municipal council. "A family is not going to bother trying to give an unwanted litter away if it is going to cost them," an animal shelter operator in central Victoria, who did not want to be identified, said. "They are going to put them in a box, dump them on a back road, and leave them to die." New legislation designed to wipe out puppy farms has caused a storm among working dog organisations, who have asked the Government for an amnesty to cover their breeders. They are building a case to separate working dogs such as Kelpies, cattle dogs and Border Collies from companion animals as other states such as NSW have done. Working dogs groups face an uphill battle as the Department of Primary Industries has already begun to police the new laws, which came into force on January 1. Kelpie breeder Bill Scott from Glenrowan said there was no consultation with working dogs groups before the laws were drafted. "For instance, under the new laws we understand all breeders have to be members of Dogs Victoria which is mainly for show dogs, and working dog people have their own groups but they are not recognised," Mr Scott said. "We are currently in a no-man's land and every day we are breaking the law." Mr Scott said it was estimated there were 25,000 working dogs in Victoria and he doubted many of them would comply with the new laws. Anyone who tries to sell or give away kittens or pups without including microchip information on the notice can be fined $610. Animal shelters, veterinarians and dog and cat groups are all solidly in support of the Government push to stamp out illegal puppy farms but many are critical about the lack of community education on the new laws. Cats Victoria chair Trish Newman said there would be some collateral damage from the new animal laws. "We want to stamp out those people who are cruelly breeding just for profit, the backyarders," Mrs Newman said. "Unfortunately, there will be some pain in the interim and perhaps the government hasn't worked hard enough to get the word out, but we have got to stop these people." Ingrid Arving, operator of a Broadford animal shelter, said pet lovers might take years to get used to the new laws. "I am sorry for the family who can't get rid of litters the way they could in the past, but they should have had their cat de-sexed," she said. A DPI spokesman said hundreds of thousands of animals were unidentifiable. Only two-thirds of dogs were registered or had microchips and only 30 per cent of cats. "Perhaps this will halt the flood of animals being taken to shelters and eventually destroyed," the spokesman said. Fo The new law the article is referring to.... http://www.dpi.vic.gov.au/pets/dog-care/microchip-details-now-needed-in-catdog-sale-advertisements To allow traceability of sellers of pets, it is now an offence to advertise the sale of a dog or cat unless the microchip identification number of the animal is included in the advertisement or notice. A registered domestic animal business may use its Council business registration number as an alternative. Frequently Asked Questions Q. Is the requirement for microchipping information limited to only breeding businesses? A. No. The legislation applies to anyone in Victoria who advertises a dog or cat (or puppy or kitten) for sale. All dogs and cats that are being advertised for sale (through a business or privately) need to be permanently identified and that microchip number must appear in the advertisement. If the person is a registered business (such as a pet shop, shelter or breeder) they can place their council registered premises number (along with the name of the issuing council) in the advertisement instead. Q. What is the definition of a breeding domestic animal business? A. If you have 3 or more fertile dogs or cats and sell dogs or cats (whether you make a profit or not), you are deemed to be a domestic animal business. This means you must register with the local council and comply with the mandatory Code of Practice for the Operation of Breeding and Rearing Establishments. However if you are a member of an applicable organisation you do not need to register as a domestic animal business unless you have 10 or more fertile dogs or cats. Either way you must comply with local council laws in relation to the maximum number of animals allowed on a property. Q. What if I am a member of an applicable organisation but not a registered domestic animal business? A. You cannot use your breeder number from the applicable organisation. If you are advertising a dog or cat for sale, the advertisement must include that animal's microchip number. Q. What if I'm part of a Community Foster Care Network, or a dog or cat rescue organisation, but not registered with the Council as a domestic animal business? A. You will be required to include microchip numbers in dog/cat sale advertisements. Q. Do I have to put in the microchip number if I am advertising the animal as 'free to a good home' or giveaway? A. No. The provision does not apply to advertisements to give away a dog or cat. Q. Are there any exemptions? A. The only exemption is if a veterinarian has provided a certificate to say the animal cannot be microchipped as it would significantly prejudice the animal's health. Q. If I have purchased a dog or cat that was advertised what information do I need to get from the seller? A. The seller must provide the microchip certificate and you must arrange the change of ownership details with the microchip registry. Q. I have seen an advertisement without a microchip number - who do I report this to? A. If the advertisement is on a local notice board or the like then contact your local council. If the advertisement is in a classified publication or website you should inform that organisation of the new requirements. Q. What if the microchip number in the advertisement is not the same as the one in the animal I have purchased? A. You should first ensure that the number on the microchip certificate matches the microchip in your animal (a vet can do this for you). Once you have this information (regardless of whether the certificate and microchip match) contact the Licensing Officer in the Department of Primary Industries on 03 9217 4200. Q. What is the penalty if I advertise for sale a dog or cat without a microchip number? A. The classified publication may choose to withdraw your advertisement from their publication. You may loose potential customers who are looking for ethical and transparent people to purchase an animal from. There is a penalty of up to 5 penalty units (around $600) that can be issued by Authorised Officers of Council, RSPCA or Department of Primary Industries Q. What if I'm advertising through an Interstate newspaper, or on a National online classified site? A. If you are based in Victoria, and if the dog or cat sale advertisement will be viewed by prospective purchasers in Victoria, then the requirement to include a microchip number still applies. Q. What if I'm a breeder advertising the future availability of puppies or kittens that aren't born or for sale yet? A. As long as your advertisement relates only to the future availability of litters, and does not include reference to animals currently "for sale", the microchip requirements do not apply. However such advertisements must be kept up to date, in that as soon as these animals do become available for sale, the microchip details must also be displayed in the advertisement. Further Information

Clearly you have a very hardy breed and to mess with that breed, which has managed for what is it, about 2000 years without a "Repo Specialist" would be arrogant to a fault. When my singleton was diagnosed via ultrasound I was told by those that know far better than me, (not being sarcastic, it's the truth :) ) that an elective C-section was imenent. I was well prepared to follow advice but my vet said that of course a natural birthing was always the better option and we would keep a close eye on my girl. Well she decided she would birth this pup herself and had no difficulty beyond the normal birth and Mother nature handled things brilliantly. By all means bring in the experts when required in an emergency or such. But for the simple mating of two dogs do we really need IVF type interferences? If we are to maintain hardy virile stock then we must first give them the opportunity to prove themselves. An AI followed by an elective c-section tells the breeder nothing about his stock. And yes, the OP is breeding a hardy working dog and should be fine doing so without resorting to AI, however this is her choice should she decide to do this. But in asking for advice, my personal opinion is, not necessary. Save your hard earned cash for the Veterninary emergencies, that like all of us, the fates will subject you to, someday. :) Well done...and my 7 year old pug bitch free whelped her singleton too, not a problem...although I was very disappointed there werent any more. :D

Does this explain why my boys and sometimes the girls seem to be horny after eating? This would be why Yvonne always told me to feed the boy/s Beef when I was trying for a mating. :D