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We only fed our guys roo meat whilst we were in the NT, cannot remember now why we dont feed it down here. Maybe to do witht he high protein levels.

i am sorry to drag this up again, but, after reading the last two emails i thought i would ask my vet what he thought about what has been going on. I sent him a link to this thread, his response as follows: "In my experience with this, most of the pups that go rigid, stop breathing and then revived, tend to die soon after. extensive research has been done into the stiffness phenomenon, but no conclusions have been made about it. It remains a mystery in the vet world." So i guess we are left to continue to ponder this mystery

i used oxytocin on my girl, she had one shot after the last pup was born, the stiff puppy i had did its thing on day 3, and then we had to start stella on oxytocin injections two days after that to help with milk production. So i am not sure if this helps your theory steve, or just confuses it more

this just makes things even more complicated, as we now have disproved all our theories. I am sorry about your pups. What i also find strange is that all your stiff pups passed away (inwhat time frame??) Mine just became the smallest and apart from his eyes is totally normal. A solution may be to take this discussion and give it to someone in canine research, as they may have a clue, or if they dont may spart some research into this puzzling occurance

good luck steve, please let us know how you go.

Good luck with this litter steve, please let us know how you go. :D

This is a very interesting line of conversation. as some of you may know i breed my first litter of boxers just last month and i had the exact same thing that jed describe to me happen with one of my boys (he was under 1 week at the time), it was whilst feeding him, and he just went stiff, i thought he had gotten some milk in his lungs and had stopped breathing or something, but with a couple of shakes he came back, it was very scary. The weird thing was he was fine after that but we later lost two pups from a lung infection caused by milk inhalation, and the pup that had gone stiff was fine. He is now the smallest of the pups, but he is doing well, and eats fine. I would be very interested in if anyone knows what this is, as when we told our vet he said it must have what we thought as it happened when i was feeding him.