Akayla

If I can remember correctly (I have a book thats fairly recent on the dingo) it is simply that they come into season once a year. From personal experience I can say that the Dingo we lived with, who was male, would become "active" at a certain time of year. He would have physical symptoms so you could tell. It was also when he would go roaming. Even electric fencing did not keep him in. Much too clever. You could also see his predatory instincts kick in very quickly and although he was very gentle and loving I think anything small that ran would have had him chasing it down. He came from a breeder. They are very unique creatures thats for sure. Nothing like wolf hybrids or wolves. I have seen a study done on how they are as working dogs (and crosses) compared to the usual breeds and wolf hybrids and they had some very different reactions to things. Which I think came down to the way they are in packs. Not the same group dynamics. Just as wolves and hybrids acted differently to the domestic dogs. I dont have a problem with anyone owning any breed so long as the animals needs are being met and its being looked after in a responsible manner. If someone wants to own a dingo and they do the right thing, I have no issue. Its not like people owning dingoes effects the wild population in anyway other than maybe creating a bad image. Ive actually seen dingo pup adds for years. Its nothing new. They act in the way a breeder does. They are not collecting wild animals usually. These are being bred as pets over generations. ETA: Also I thought some brindling and at least a saddle like pattern had been seen in some of early studies on wild dingoes? That it was some what unknown if that was from crossing with dogs but that it hasnt been seen since (and there is so much dilution now in most) so considered a sign of crossing.

Break in to shelters are not that uncommon. Like any place security or not people break in. Perhaps the difference here is an adult would be detered or make a better effort not to be caught. These girls just didnt seem to care.

Yes it does :laugh: I guess with my wolfdog once she did settle down she was very very easy. She was very clever and would sometimes come up with her own way. She would learn something super fast and would often figure something out without me teaching her. She ate my tv when she was 6 months old though :laugh: Also had a taste for cacti? In comparison my GSD needs constant reinforcement, and takes a few goes to get it. She also looks to me for a lot more direction and does alot of things for herself. Its hard to explain but they were both good dogs but completely different.

What I was saying was that I wouldnt want a pup given what information I have and my experience. That doesnt mean that Im right. I havent had the chance to get anymore info so thats what I go on. This person could be a great breeder but bad with people. Who knows. Not for me though. Yes Chris. How sad it is that all the plans made to introduce this breed in a careful manner have gone out the window. Hopefully ethical breeders who do the right thing still import. Otherwise Im not interested.

Hmm lets see. 30 yrs of careful breeding where all animals have health tests, only best temperament used and pups given the best start in all ways vs someone who randomly used a cross with no health testing, no socialisation for pups and little care to what they turn out and to who it goes to... :laugh: maybe its just me but I can see a world of difference.

Sorry that your doggie passed away. What was she? The people that were breeding them are pretty private about them and dont sell to the public. Basically they used some of the foundation dogs for the CzW but breed for temperament and not looks. Its not a official breed. Czechoslovakian Shepherds was the term they were using. Many years have passed though so I have no idea what they are doing now.

If you ever bring one across can you please let me know? I would be interested to hear your thoughts on them. I have several friends in Europe who are involved with &/or breed these dogs and they are on my list of "when the children leave home" dogs I'd like to own. I have heard trickles of information regarding their trainability and temperament but I am not confident enough to bring one over and start off with them myself - not until I've learned a lot more about them at least. Like most breeds its all about the breeder you get them from, especially a working breed. The forum is not bad for learning about them, lots of photos and stories of every day life. I found with my girl the first couple of years were the hardest. Once we got past that (heaps of training) she was a dream dog.

You can call them a Czechoslovakian vlcak instead. Yes I am Chris :) yes i have had a different breed but a "wolfdog". Sadly she passed away last year. I miss her alot. CzWs are as close as I can get to her breed.

Yes sounds about right. I think its fairly safe to assume this person isnt looking after the best interest of the breed and quite alot of people who have invested alot of time and money are quite annoyed really. I feel for them as they claim they did not know the dogs were infact crossed with something else but that doesnt explain the behaviour now. I wouldnt buy a pup and Ive been trying to get another wolfdog for over 10 years! Desperate but not stupid!

I wouldnt trust this breeder at all. There is a fair amount of doubt with both dogs. Not only that but this owner offered to sell me a pup and when I asked some fairly basic questions they immediately stop contact. Its up to the individual to make a decision but that screams BYB to me. Infact they are hard to get any info out of at all. Id be extremely careful. The person who wanted to import is no longer with them, its their partner who owns the dogs now. Its written on the forum. Also the price was much higher - its dropped recently. If anyone wants a pup I would urge them to be careful and maybe wait just a bit longer for a very experienced breeder to import her dogs. They are a great breed, not for just anyone sure but lovely dogs.

Wish I had said something too. He was so helpful and friendly. He did alot for the community aswell. I just could not believe it at first. My thought are with his family.

Sorry got very busy lately. Will keep an eye out for any walks organised here :)

Id love to join you all if you go walking with leads. :)

I know there is one kennel that has large yards for dogs and when I spoke to them are happy not to do group exercise with Lakota (she just came on heat and I dont trust her on the off chance she doesnt get along with a dog and Im not there). However they have new owners so not sure yet how good they are? Thanks everyone for the imput Im discussing it with my mum Where ever we go I will definately be wanting to inspect first and I will ask how many dogs they are taking on at that time ect

Thanks Kuma I will look into them Not really sure about them needing much social time with other dogs, three of them are ok but the other two are not good enough Id trust them while I was gone. Well thats good if they are comfortable with large breeds. I noticed one site said they wouldnt socialise certain breeds at all? Seemed a bit odd to me.

Ok so I know this has been done before but I thought things may have changed since then. Can anyone recommend a good boarding kennel in the Canberra area? My mum and I are going away and we need some where very good for our 5 dogs. In particular our old Czech Shepherd. She is very old and we are nervous about leaving her any where. However I think a kennel may be better than my 18yr old nephew I dont really want to go the pet sitter way as I think it would be safer to have my GSD bitch in an escape proof neighbour free kind of enviroment. I did have someone lined up and a back up but they have both had something come up. Any one able to help???

Awww Kneecole PS - send me your address so I can send you an invite to my baby shower :D Hmmm I dont think we decided on a where did we? Im pretty easy where ever people want to go. do we also want to lock in a time? 2pm maybe??? Any thoughts?

Sunday afternoon sounds great to me

What about... not this weekend but the next?

As I said before no one dog or breeder can really be pointed to. Its not like someone woke up one day and said gee I think I will change the look of an entire breed today If you are really interested you need to look at the nitty gritty to understand. There were dogs that look like the show line of today back then too. Just as there are straight backed and over sized/huge boned dogs now. The question is why certain lines became popular and why others died out. Dogs with short bodies, short legs, long legs and now over long bodies have become unpopular due to fairly obvious issues. Perhaps the fact that breeders started avoiding lines that produced this as a general rule is why you see more conformed shape. Dont fear though many breeders also dislike over angled dogs for physical reasons and these dogs to are losing favour. Its important to remember this is a man made breed and it has been evolving and changing although trying to aim for an ideal. Its not a dog that just existed already so we can look at photos and say see that is how it was supposed to be. Right at the beginning they were trying to weed out certain looks and issues. Although health testing is fairly recent in the history, breeders avoided a line like the plague if a major disease was found. This is another reason certain "looks" died out as the line itself was linked or thought to be with certain serious ailments. Yes there have been dogs which became over used as studs at times so they have had an overly strong influence. However trends fade, a good breeder will continue to select for BOTH health and temperament aswell as ensuring it is a good represenation of the breed physically. A breeder that ignores any of those traits in my opinion is one to steer clear of. Call me a dreamer but I would expect a dog used for breeding to be of sound temp and health and able to walk into a ring and impress. Yes I want it all but a GSD is meant to be the "all rounder". Both SL and WL have issues so I am not interested in what group a breeder decides they belong to - rather Im interested in someone who is looking out for the breed itself not pushing their own agenda.

I will suggest as always people that are really interested in the way the breeder evolved read "the genetic history of the German Shepherd dog". Its a bit technical in some parts but what makes it interesting is it actually shows the development of the breed properly. They also do a brief on a few countries including Australia. I found it interesting how they showed what features were selected. Why some looks were bred away from and why some lines died out. If you do your research you will find a variety of dogs in all shapes and colours existed then and now. All were GSDs. The question is why one kind has been favoured by breeders. Today there are still a number of varieties. There are also always differences in shape and structure in every single litter. Its what the breeder does with it. IMO what is important is a breeder that is not totally focussed on one type but an overall health. Selecting a GSD as a pet today based on nothing but looks is no better than those that choose any extreme look. There are so many aspects to the breed. Again I strongly recommend that book to anyone who wants to really know. I couldnt possibly some up all those years and dogs in a post or point to any particular turning point.

Im pretty easy too

Definitely looks gsd to me. Horrid situation but hard to say who is in the right. A dog fight can look life threatening without actually being that serious. If his dog only had minor injuries, a toy may have been involved ect... Shooting may have just been excessive force but this certainly needs looking into. 3 large dogs capable of violence Is very concerning. Of course the three worked together, and he needs to realise he can't do anything with so many large dogs off lead.

Thats a shame daisy. If it was my pay day Id come get you