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Nation wide laws or regulations would certainly make life easier for all, at least we would know where we all stood in that regard but they need to be fair laws or regulations for all concerned. A blanket 3 or 4 dog policy would certainly make life very hard for pure breed breeders who do the right thing. Also I believe some councils also include any live dog being included in the number you are allowed to have ie day old puppies, that makes life very hard if you are only allowed 8 dogs and one of your bitches whelps a litter of 8 or more or even less depending on the other dogs on the property.

wow Anne what a lovely pic, your GSD looks so happy to be doing that. I too think it is great to see them doing something they enjoy.

are you thinking of moving to QLD Anne?

Jed it is so good to hread your progress, what is that saying you cant keep a good woman down. Well my dear you are not only standing but driving and balancing on one leg, so very pleased that you are doing so well.

Moxidectin is a derivative of Ivermectin. I will copy and paste the list of drugs we are told not to give collies due to the MDR1 issue as this may be of help to you as well. You said he tested negative to the MDR1 test, do you mean he doesnt have the gene, because if that is the case he is sensative to the below drugs? Also ignore the bit in blue as the test is now available MDR1 Mutant Gene – Drug Sensitivity in some Collies Studies in USA have found that a large percentage of Collies (& some other breeds) have a mutant gene which leaves them susceptible to undesirable & possibly fatal effects from certain drugs. These dogs do not have the MDR1 gene that produces the protein P-glycoprotein (P-gp). When P-gp is present & functional the drug cannot remain in the brain – but when it is absent the drug penetrates the brain & stays there setting in motion the circumstances for toxic reaction. Because the required gene is not there to “block” these drugs from entering the brain blood flow this then sets off a chain reaction of central nervous system dysfunction. Severely affected Collies can lapse into coma and death, usually due to respiratory arrest. Therefore, it is imperative that ALL Collie owners are aware of this and that certain drugs are NEVER given to a Collie – in any form & in any quantity. Studies indicate that small doses of “mectin” based drugs (such as in Heartworm preventative treatments etc) are safe. However, I have read reports of adverse reactions in Collies that have been given the “mectin” based Heartworm / flea preventative treatments – too much information for me & enough for me to take the attitude that ANY dosage rate is TOO MUCH & therefore not to be given to a Collie. A test has recently been developed in the USA (I am not aware of this test being available in Australia yet). This test will determine whether a dog has the required MDR1 gene or not. That is the only way of knowing whether your Collie is safe from use of these drugs or not. I do not know whether samples can be sent to USA from Australia to have this test done however. Symptoms of Drug Sensitivity to watch for are: (not all symptoms need to be present) • Pupil dilation (mydriasis) • Loss of Coordination (ataxia), may appear “drunk” • Drooling • Vomiting (emesis) • Depression • Lethargy • Loss of Appetite (anorexia) • Diarrhea • Tremors • Stupor • Convulsions (seizures) • Immobile leaning/lying down (recumbency) • Paralysis (paresis) • Excitability • Coma On the following page are the drugs that I have been able to find that have been listed as ones to be avoided. There is also a list of drugs listed as “possible dangerous drugs”. There may be others (including ones in the same families as those listed) that I have not found, so do your own research on any drug BEFORE you give it to your Collie. If you become aware of another drug not on this list please let me know so that I can add it. Page 2 The Drugs to avoid are Anti-helminthic pharameuticals that are P-glycoprotein substrates : This includes all Milbemycins & Avermectins (which are Macrocyclic Lactones) This family of drugs has many varieties & they are commonly used for treatment of parasitic purposes (eg heartworm, ear mites, intestinal worms, fleas, ticks, mange mite etc etc). They are commonly used & are in the majority of the “monthly tablet & spot ons” for preventative flea/tick/heartworm/worm products. There is also an injectable 6 monthly heartworm treatment which is made from one of these family of drugs. Members of this family of drugs NOT TO BE USED that I have found are : -IVERMECTIN (also sold under the product name of Ivomec®) -MOXIDECTIN (also sold under the product name of Cydectin®) -MILBEMYCIN OXIME -SELAMECTIN -NEMADECTIN -ABAMECTIN -DORAMECTIN (mutation of S. avermitilis) Examples of other drugs NOT TO BE USED that are P-glycoprotein substrates include (but not restricted to): -erythromycin (antimicrobial agent) -grepafloxacin (antimicrobial agent) - doxorubicin (anticancer agent) -vinca alkaloids (anticancer agent) -Vincristine (anticancer agent) -Vinblastine (anticancer agent) - cyclosporin A (immunosuppressant) - tacrolimus (immunosuppressant) -dexamethasone (steroid) -hydrocortison (steroid) -loperamide (gastrointestinal drug) -domperidon (gastrointestinal drug) -quinidine (cardiac drug) -digoxin (cardiac drug) -Loperamide (Imodium® - over the counter antidiarrheal agent) MORE Drugs that have been listed as “Potential Problem Drugs”: (NOTE : Biochemical studies have shown that the gene MDR1 has the potential to act on over 50 different drugs, so there may be many more that dogs missing this gene can be affected by) - Ondansetron - Domperidone - Paclitaxel - Mitoxantrone - Etoposide - Rifampicon - Quinidine - Morphine

I have the pink sun lounge, someone else can do the drinkies

It was a lovely show in memory of a lovely man, a damn damn shame more GSD's couldnt suck it up and enter regardless of the judge or what not. 1 exhibitor entered 2 dogs but I believe couldnt make it due to flooding, that was it. There was also a special GSD BOB award. When Bob (kojak) did so much to promote the GSD in a positve way I thought they could have supported the nicest GSD person i have ever met. PS Gail Bobs wife is Jeanette daughter is Kathy. edit due to spelling

I have decided to stay home

I also entered the ACT Neuter classes, there were 8 or 9 in the working dog group. My beautiful 5 yr old recently desexed girl won the group at 2 of the 3 shows. So proud of my Sway and so pleased to see the support from the working dog group, lets make the next one bigger and better

still dont have mine

hope mine turns up tomorrow

just cost me $419 including scoring for a smooth collie

Cant wait for the link to the store as I some how managed to miss out on ordering one, have been so forgetfull these days.

add more wine and tissues and panadol and large vet bill to the costs, pyo confirmed and bitch desexed

look he will let the bitch run with the dog no matter what you say, he will get a bitch with a belly full of puppies and make a motza because thats how murphys damn law works. He wont have spent a fortune prog testing, thyroid testing scanning to find no puppies and then having to consider the possibility of having the bitch speyed due to pyo. Not to mention the time spent planning the litter or the cost of panadol, wine and tissues when it all turns to hell.

as far as my breed is concerned I wouldnt mate a collie before 12mths anyway. But I feel it is another nail in the coffin of pure bred dogs and pure breed responsible breeders. Havent the VCA worked out that without its members they will have no money, no jobs and no nice offices to sit in.

Dont know if I will be ready or not but just have to say I LOVE my new camera, hubby got me a 450D twin lens kit on Wednesday.

I have been researching cameras also and the 550D and 450d both have live view, the 550d more options though

Ok I am after an entry point DSLR but I dont want something I am going to "grow" out of too fast. I would rather spend the money once and get one that is easy to learn to use now but be able to do the fancy stuff with later once I have learnt. Would prefer Cannon or Nikon i think.

look and see if there is a baby puppy drop down menu below the adult classes

I just make natural yoghurt for my dogs and add it to their kibble and meat. I wouldnt bother trying this food as I am happy with how my dogs are doing on what I feed now and how I feed

I will be there both days with Cooper and my new puppy from NZ

Here is my new hopeful. She arrived in Australia last week and is an absolute delight. Introducing Collievale Dark Ambitions (imp NZ) aka Poi She is only 7 weeks in the pics but is now 11

Ok from the point of view of a small club, if our committee didnt enter our one show per year we hold we wouldnt have much of an entry. Our show sec and president dont exhibit their own dogs nor has our show sec entered, for that matter the pres hasnt entered for the last 2 years but that is another kettle of fish. I am secretary and treasurer for the club and I personally handled 1 or my 2 entered, being on the committee didnt do me any favors and the judge placed the dogs as she saw fit on the day.

think you have the age wrong Elkie but huge congrats on your win. SSM well done. BMP well done on Magics win yesterday. Not much from me, 2 reserves with Cooper yesterday, reserve bitch yesterday at 1 show with Sway, today reserve dog with Coop and R/up BOB and bitch CC with Sway