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Ok again the frames are minced there are no sharp pieces in it. Also yes most dogs can cope with bacteria but she can't I am going to start trying her on a grain free dry food soon as I'm not liking how hard her stools are and she is still starving although she is eating 3kgs a day mince , veggies, eggs and sardines

also to clarify they are minced frames not full ones

Really just because Im worried about bacteria at this stage.

Just an update we have been on homecooked minced chicken frames and vegies for a week and I think im noticing a slight improvement. she is managing 2.5kgs of this split over the day but she is still hungry so im trying to increase it but normally. Im hoping once she has put some weight back on she wont be as ravenous. Im also noticing her gas now stinks but I think that maybe just her body getting used to the change in diet. So hopefully this is working. Thank you all for your advice and keep your fingers crossed that this could be the answer.

I am on that group

I have spoken to most of the breeders in Australia no one else has experienced anything like it

International group

Yes her breeder knows I've also posted on a national Newfoundland group on Facebook . Breeder told me to try thrive d but that made her sick

Thanks everyone has given me lots to think about... We have tried losec and 2 other meds on advise from the specialist in Melbourne who my vet has been in contact with throughout this. I believe he said they don't do scopes anymore but ill double check that on Monday

Yup totally get where your coming from... if I don't feed her though she carries on a treat jumps all over everyone and runs back and forth to the kitchen and yes this activity causes bloating... have tried crating her but she just gets herself all upset and breaks out... if she comes to work with me (at vet) she doesn't bloat as she is in a cage all day and I can feed her all day... another reason I think its activity based...Or anxiety... originally she would only do it when I got home from work 2 hours after feeding. there are so many little things but just cant find the answer so we can help. She had a barium xray and that all went through normally the only odd part was that her stomach was already full of gas before she was fed.. she wasn't bloated at the time.

She has had Gastroplexy yes

I haven't tried it but I believe she would.... I wouldn't want to try it at this stage either not when she is finally getting some weight on.

yes.... even if I stop feeding at 11 she will still bloat all afternoon and night until about 9:30 long after her stomach is emty... she isn't running around either she is very quiet.

Tried it ... the reason I do it that way is she copes better with food in the morning... if she eats later she bloats badly and then I obviously cant feed her again while she is bloating. only a month ago she could have thew first 2 meals without any gas but now its only the first one.... I have to get food into her when I can as she went from 51kg in January to 38 only a month or so ago so I have to take the opportunity when I can. She has finally started putting weight back on enough that I can play around a bit more with her food

Thanks everyone... its very frustrating.. I have tried most of your ideas... I am going to give home made food a try again though. She isn't a gulper she eats very slowly she is on 4 small meals a day and we have worked our way up to that it doesn't seem to be food related though as she gets fed 4:30 in the morning she copes ok with that then again at 7:30 and again at 11 then she gasses up and releases all day until around 9:30pm depending on how badly she will get another feed at about 4:30 ive tried all different variations on this and different foods from plain chicken alone to premium holistic food and nothing has changed... she doesn't get anything other than the food she is on.