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And another I was going to add a quote to this one about black & white and shades of grey in life but couldnt think of/find any good ones....

Here ya go

Okay so no talking and no pinning got it. I do watch the sibe. She is a bully. She is always testing the others. I dont normally miss a cue( while I am watching) because I say 'leave it'/ 'knock it off'/'no' when I know shes going to start something. When I give her the comand she gives me eye contact and I hold it till she looks away and then she walks away. These ones just happen to happen when I wasnt watching/looking at the dogs. I had issues with her when she was a puppy which is the reason I am confident in saying I know her 'cues'. I was told when she was young to watch her closly, learn her like the back of my hand and stop her when she thinks about it before she gets the chance to do it because it was useless to try and correct her after it happend. Since then I have been able to end many things before they got to this level. Can I have exsamples of overpowering my dogs mentally? I understand but I dont know how

So if pinnning the dog after the fight makes me part of the fight them wouldnt me also parting them make me part of the fight? IF I dont end the fight then one of them will kill the other one. Therefore I am part of the fight either way I look at it....So now that im part of the fight what do I do? Sadly, I only know one person with enough dog knowllege to help me here. BUT I can never get a hold of her. The only other 'doggy' trainers around are barkbusters.....and they wont do any good. Thanks for the website I will have a look at it. Just to clear up the bone thing again- I did not give them the bone. I never give bones out to dogs in the same room. I have no idea how they got it all I know is if I was to take it a figh may have very well have started. As said the sharing wasnt chewing on it together. lilli- Permanent separation... with the whole 'pack' or just the other bitch?

What drive are we talking about here? There are a few of them. ETA: A few exsamples are food drive, pack drive, prey drive. Am I safe to assume you are talking about food drive?

awwww thanks!!! so cute Welcome Though my advice is not to look at a big version of the pic. Looks way better smaller!

Shes always testing the water so to speak. To the bone. The Mastiff had was chewing on it and then the sibe came over and laid next to her. Didnt take it nor did she chew on it at the time. The madtiff stopped chewing sibe took it when mastiff got up and left. When I meant sharing I dont mean they where chewing on it togther..sorry for the confussion. But sharing is letting the other have it at all. Normally whats theirs is theirs even when their not chewing on it. ETA: Dont feel rude. I have only told what breed each dog is and not their names. I figured it would be easyer and I'd save time on ppl asking what breeds and size differents ect. :cool: I dont allow mine to eat bones around each other either I think I said I dont know how they found it but they did..and if I didnt I meant to type it TO the lock jaw thing. I was told dogs that bite down and dont release unless pried open/off other dog is called lock jaw and that is what sibes and mastiff among other breeds have...I was told this by a trainer so I assumed it was correct. I am not lacking in my stance. I have made clear to ALL of my dogs I WILL and CAN take them down and will do so if I am challenged. In this case IMO I am not sending mix messages. I have recongnized how they have worked out thier 'ranks' and I feed in that order. I stop all fights and put boith dogs down. I have done my best in letting them ALL know I will not deal with fighting. I just about all cases they have stopped the second I raised my voice and towerd over. My top ranking dogs will NEVER be happy nor deal with being equal. I have dealt with the old girl stepping down and the next dog (the mutt) stepping it up. The sibe has NEVER been submissive to any dog that cant overpower her. Its just not 'her' and I have worked VERY hard in dealing with her. She also has some other issues that I have worked hard to manged because I realized I can not get fix them all because well some are just part of the package...but I have/am working very hard to 'work with them' and stop things before they start. I have spent much time learning her like the back of my hand. Just by looking at her i can tell you what she is thinking and what shes about to do. I have worked hard to know everything about her. I have worked even hard to make her understand I am 'god' infact I am basically the only person she will listen to. But to add to the drama and the reason that I dont think its me being a 'lesser alpha': The sibe is in heat ( shes been in heat 2 times before and has never had an attuide..infact the last times she was soooooooo mellow) the Masiff is 7ish which is getting way up there in mastiff yrs...I think they live till 8-10 yrs.. SO I was thinking mastiff did start this hailey being in season challenge her back and now its its grown into a fight over ranks. I havent done anything different then I have been and no fights like this has ever happend before which lead me to beliveing its somthing bigger then me not being a storng alpha. I could be VERY wrong and am opend to ppl telling me so. But I thoughtd I just add in my thoughts Thankyou to all who have give advice and info. And thank you RedMal I might be takening you up on the PM offer Also they have been apart for awhole day now. Should I keep em apart till the sibe comes out of heat? Or put on her greyhound muzzle and allow them to be together and make clear I want no fights (The sibe will latch on the mastiff will stop before she acts. The muzzle will prevent the sibe from biting and give me an extra second to put an end to things without teeth coming in play)

I dont mind I will answer any questions that will help. The sibe is 19-20 mos...she'll be two this Dec. She's always been the 'bully' They sleep in the bed with me most of the time :D But latly they have their dog beds and sleep on the floor next to the bed 9around the area of the bed). Since this has been happening I havent allowd any of them in the bed. The mastiff is a bitch.

I could deal with pushing...But I cant deal with fighting. My two will kill eachother before the other will step down..... :D

Oh my god that is fantastic!!!v :D Could you do me one like that?? P.S Harminee, thanks so much I dont know if you saw the thread but all I did was replace Husky87 dogs head with the underdogs head...I didnt make the background or anything... so if you want your dogs head there instead I can do that.. Okay adding to this....Im not a HUGE fan of this one but here it is lol I think I need more practices on dogs with long coats

Oh my god that is fantastic!!!v :D Could you do me one like that?? P.S Harminee, thanks so much I dont know if you saw the thread but all I did was replace Husky87 dogs head with the underdogs head...I didnt make the background or anything... so if you want your dogs head there instead I can do that..

Bump...:D

You guys are getting better and better Some very cool stuff in here! Heres some new stuff....I took pics on old film and everything was very grainy SO I photoshoped away ETA the one I did for Husky87 hope she doesnt mind if I post it here... Ooopss one more I photoshoped a pic I took at the zoo

Does he keep the dogs tags on the dogs prong collar? ETA: I know it sounds like a weird question but the anwser may be able to help me answer your question)

I AM the alpha bitch to all the dogs in my house. BUT with that said we do have a pack. Our one mutt is alpha bitch(after me of course) and my mastiff is beta...then comes hailey and then the rest.... Heres the issue: The yesterday the mastiff and sibe came running down the stairs together. The mastiff growled at the sibe and well this time she(the sibe) desided to break rank (which never happens she always backs down) so....the sibe latched onto the mastiff and the mastiff screams an I rush over to end it...No blood this time. But some broken egos..so I pulled hailey away(after a lot of work sibes have 'lock jaw' as do mastiffs) by her rough and her front feet off the ground (still wanting to go after the other dog) and put her to the ground (I dont know if this right all I know is I needed her off her feet and her head under my control) I then pinned her up for awhile because she had 'the look' later on they where fine! Somehow they found a bone and where lying side by side sharing the bone Neither of them share! I would have gott'n the bone right that second BUT I KNEW if I went over there to take it there would be a fight so I let it be and watched closly...both seemed very relaxed not caring at all....This is till they both wanted the new water that I put in the dish and they started to so show teeth over who was going to drink first...I yelled 'NO' and stepped between (they wouldnt dare bite me they know their chances arent good if they pick a fight with me) and both stopped but watched each other..They where fine with in a few mins they even eat this morning by each other this morning and no tiffs ( i wouldnt have fed them together but sis does the morning feeding and I forgot to fill her in) But all was fine they stayed in the same room while I was at work and no marks on either and ppl where home all day and would have heard if somthing was going on). BUT later in the day somehow another 'fight' broke out ( i dont know how it happend or who start'd it..All I did was turn my back for a min...) SO now the mastiff has a small hole (just surface) from me pulling hailey off her...way harder to get her off this time.....so ATM shes wearing a greyhound muzzle and both are being yelled at for any stairing....and neither are in the same room anymore. So what do I do? How do I fix it? I am deeply thankful for any advice or info.

Its really only for resure ppl actully not the whole public but the ladys friend does recure and told her she could add her pup to her list. not a busy day at work we talked for awhile. I think they had to reserve and give a list of names so they could make a cut off

So its not life threathing? Whats the worst thing that could happen? I know you run a small risk in your dog dying even if its not in season but is the risk high with a one in season?

Thanks. Theres a place around here that is trying to get ppl to desex their dogs and cats and for any size it will only cost $10.00 the catch is its for one day only. Waaayyyy cheap though. A lady at my work told me about it but has a bitch that has been in seaon for a few weeks and wanted to know if it would be safe. So it got me thinking if it was safe or not.

As the title says. How safe/unsafe is it to desex a bitch in season? And would you do it?

A final good bye.....I didnt get to say good bye to you....infact I hadnt seen you for a week or two. So even though I couldnt give you a final good bye hug there will never be a day that I will say good bye to our lovely memories. I got a text message while at work today saying that one of my Fav. dogs had just died. She was my dog when I lived with my grandmother (For 5-6 yrs) At first it didnt hit me...I read it twice...closed my phone and went back to work....there was nothing...not a singal thought..... I came home and my little girls litter mate was here (Gigi). She was screaming at my grandmothers and her eyes where full of tears...I hugged her and her tail went a mile a min. But still nothing had hit me.... Till now...Now I sit here and think or the first time I saw her. I think I was 7 and we where out of town. We came back with two flea and tick ridden puppies that sounded like ducks. One with long fluffy coat and one black and one with a wirey coat... I can remember dressing her in all those baby doll clothings and her just dealing with it. I remember are long walks...she walked for 5 mins and I carried her for an hour ...no wonder she was 'chunky'...I keep thinking about how everyday I got out the hair gel and spiked the top of her head... :D Good night Sassy... :D I'm sorry I never got to hug you one last time....Say hi to Dash for me old girl.

It looks great palane! :D Shes gott'n so big!

I :love that! Great job

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It looks good palane! Doing that pic killed my comp :p :D

Just because no ones pick'd on this on yet and I was bored....