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i agree about the experienced sheep also wit connor dave always had one of his kelpies wiht him if a sheep looked at him funy Rosie stepped in and sorted it out actualy she was brilliant she would move the shepep then step back and let connor have a go and only help when he looked in trouble i think she thought he was a pup hehe I agree with hesa too the dog may just not have the temprement for sheep the sheep in aust are big and tough and will stand their ground it takes a dog wiht good presence to manage them maybe ducks would be better for a softer dog though they can be quite aggressive if they think they can get away with it Id find a vry expereinced person and get themt o help you build your dogs confidence maybe ask herding guy if he knows anyone near you that would suit

we had a similar prob with my sheltie he has good instinct but hes very soft under pressure and one sheep threw him he lost confidence Dave took us ut in the big paddock with his kelpe bitch and within a few minutes he was back on track even going after a sheep that broke and headed it and bought it back I think in the amller yard the sheep were harder for him to get mving as he doesnt have amuch presence lol but once he found he could move them he got the hang of it

connor does a very cute routine to singin in the rain but we havent done anyhting for ages since he got sick Right now i think im a dog sport spinster hehe

i just use a wooden spoon and no its not the same one i use for cooking at least im pretty sure it isnt hehe

interesting topic i think its great to have a look at various sports but it can be hard to be good at all of them and the poor dog trying to learn a thousand different thigns at once Personally i love obedience and retrieving and will have a go at field trials one day but that compliments what we already do we do some agility for donfidence building but nothing serious and thats it shoey you forgot to add your thinking of tryign trackng you tart

gsp hoping to do retrieving and field

whast the list address id be interested in joining

meanie i'll let you know what think of the book i may be needing help trinaing a feld dog sooer than you think is there a good book that explains the terminology what is required and what it means

yup we.ve had plenty of rescues over the years but to do retreiving and field te dog must have ankc papers so it doesnt work lol

ohh so polo will be an exceptional dog then whos the dam and sire i love diannes dogs especially nugget i remember him as a young dog giving russel a hard time lol its funny how you know what you like nearly every gsp i have liked goes back to the same lines you have good taste

anyone go to shepperton we are heading up there at the end of august thought we might drop in and have a look

gee that would be great by teh way who bred your gsp very cute

Has anyone read it Does anyone have a copy they would be willing to sell or lend me please http://www.clickertraining.com/node/981

if i was you id get in contact with dave up in tullarmarine he is excellent at starting you off explains things in terms we can understand and its a lot of fun is that who is running the four paws one cosmo

hi daisy which club did you join its fifty fifty some clubs are still in the dark ages but most have come forwad in leaps and bounds

aquestion does playing tug upset the mouth of a working gundog i mean make them ahrder mouths or is that just genetics

well i tink anyone who has trianed a dog can appreciate the fun and games of comptition

its more about time than age anyway though the dog was lovely i have decided to go with a younger dog

QUOTE(isiss @ 25th Jun 2007 - 08:27 PM) I will vouch for the agility thing though. I think its crap that other people get treated differently and yet you weren't even told 'well done' You got NQ on the agilty and got no well done, but the other two NQ did, thats mean nah thast just the dog world get used to it it gets worse wehnt hey start thnking your real competition

you mean i made sense hehe no you know what sucks wehn you get 198 and come second and if you had been in the other two rings you would have won Luck of the draw i guess

you get first but they usually dont give out the trophy other clubs just dont hnd out prizes to that class as everyone nq'd i agree with that if everyone nq''ed then its insulting to the next ring if you got 190 and came second and that ring had all nq's and someone still gained first place

lol least bad like it didnt any dog pass all the exercises if not poorly hey my dogs one a few classes when hes the only dog in it actually wehn we had horses i remember stewrding for a judge who gave a second to a competitor that was the only entry because he said it wasnt up to a first place and in the rider class two entries he refused to give prizes and he said the riders were well below the standard required and shouldnt have been entered how embarrassing

there is a huge difference as i said before between focus and high head heeling i expect 100% focus and i give back the same when we ar wworking but i do not expect my dogs to stare into my eyes and trip over things because they arent looking where they are going rofl I remember a few years back watching a dog heel straight into a poo bin not nice

fhr i garee i want my dogs looking out in front but staying foccussed not hard to achieve as it sounds my gsp had lovely heeling and was also grea at marking birds Its easy to get the high head heeling but is it necessary no

its a amatter of choice and many judges consider it crowing Also be aware that it is unatural and can cause strain to neck and shoulders if not balanced wiht work on both sides of the handler Mary ray also mentions this. My sisters sheltie does very exxaggerated heeling head up very high parncing however she also gets a sore outside shoulder a lot personally i like in between i like my dog to be foccussed this does not however mean a dog has to be looking up like that actually a dog can be looking up gazing into your eyes and yet not be foccussedon the job their ears tell different