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It is in the deatails you have to look past the bi picture and see whats really going on i watched a retieve video where the dog was taught using strangulation its produced very fast accurate retrieve wit a wagging tail to the novce it would be impressive it was that fast but if you watched you could see the stress and the frantic behaviour of the dog what looks great isnt always as great as you think.

hmm i can answer that no as i said if you look at victorian trials you may get one to three passes per class out of 100 entries and whe you look past novice to open ud and udx some trials have maybe one to five passes across the whole group of classes it is not uncommon to have no passes in a class. Saldy clubs generally teach very basic stuff adn then you are one your own. Take our current club we have around 100 memebres on the ground each week we have maybe ten that would like to trial and at present three triallign the three trialling are in ccd and not getting passes because their dogs are ready people think they get to top class means they are ready to trial In one year you may not even see a perfect 200 and even top dog last year only half the competitors thast five had averages over 190 Most of the trialers that are successful either go to a private trainer or work with small groups or have ben around a long tme and are very experienced its interesting if you took all the people out of top dog that have been trialling for a long time and are very experienced you'd have a couple of people

for through your arme i teach it to start with a pole against the wall then i reduce the pole to my arm once they are jumping the arm them i add the other arm ovr the top then move away from the wall eliminates ned of other person

most clubs forget about the people who wish to go past basic obedience and your kinda on your own . I think its up to the triallers to get together and start a group b it at club or not and if you want instruction even if you had to pay a trainer between four to six people it wouldnt be that expensive. We have clubs down here with lots of triallers rings up every week and lots of help for the newvie Southern and Morington spring to mind but then you cant get near the rings because they are so busy and there are too many opinions at least at a non trialing clubyou get to use the equipment freely and dont have to wait all day and if you need help then you go to a trainer which for trial work is much better than trying to learn in a group of dogs and handlers with diffferent needs

nice focus my only suggestion and it would be hard in a small space would be pick up the pace so she has to trot ven when you tak of from a halt or down you want her getting straight into a trot you'll have no trouble getting you cd with that heeling

southern would be the closest to a trialling club in vic that i can think of

sad but true i wish they would spend more time however this instructor is someone who is very well regarded in the dog world we have spoken at lenght about instructor trianing sadly thoguh we need volunteer instructors to keep clubs going its hard when there is never enough and those that do put their hand up are often vry inexperienced

i dont use check chains if i was looking to take a dog to trianing then i'd be a novice and wouldnt have the knowledge but i would still look to soemone who uses other methods my first dog wore a chain for one day at club then i threw it n the bin he was dog aggressive the instructor strung him up for having ago at another dog the dog tried to go her through fear after that i swore i wouldnt never use one tht same dog trialled to ud and never showed aggression after about three months of trianing

we use a positive retrieve for want of a better term and always had good reliability so maybe if you were going it alone you missed something along the way i have no doubt the forced retrieve is reliable but so it the strangle rtrive and the dogs look great racing out and back but you have to draw a line somewhere weve trained heaps of different dogs to retrieve from whippets to beagles to gundogs to spitzes including a spitz that had been beaten and wouldnt even look at a toy or put nayhting near its mouth all had reliable retrieves personaly if my only optiont o get a dog inot open was a forced retrieve i'd take up agility

heres my issue ive seen too many people abuse the method my belief is that when using more negative methods many people go a little further and further until what they are doign is cruel wereas with more postive methods even if they go to far they end up with a fat dog or a very hyper one If ts acceptable to pinch a dogs ear to get i to open ts mouth then it could also be seen as acceptable to to pinch the ear harder f it doesnt i have watched a dog have its head rammed into the ground by an earpinch for not gettign the right article noone said anything until i jumped in and complained to the club president I dont see an earpinch in the same box as a prong collar your using earpinch to teach trick you require for trialling whereas prong collars are used to stop a problem that could be the differnce between a dg being exercised or given away does that make sense

funny mine dont slow down when i add the drop i can see what your saying and being unsure will often affect a performance as will nerves etc ive seen dogs trial that look beaten but i know for a fact they havent same as wagging tails arent necessarily happy dogs. the question though is about the orced retrieve so i ask you this why would you use a forced retrieve what is your reasoning

love that desciption k9 thast how i feel i want the picture to look effortless like ballroom dancers and you do see apprehension in adog even when subtle i showed a video to a friend of one of vics top dogs working and they straight away noticed its slight head duck and reluctance they dont even own a dog

must add i would not send soemone to a club if their goal was trial work i'd send he private to someone wo can tech the requirements personally i only use clubs for distraction

only 1% of people who join clubs get past novice trialling a firnd did a survey a few years back that was the result actualy we find the opposite about clubs most dont focuss enough on trial work and then epopel want to trial and have to be retaught

well our club had one title gained this year so i guess they arent a trialling club rofl

dont like it wont use it have seen it used its uneccesary if your goal is trialling then a motivational retrieve is perfect i have watched the forced retrieve abused on too many occasions its much harder to abuse a food trianed retrieve. I feel some people are willing to go to far for the sake of a ribbon and piece of paper and sadly guys the forced retrieve s actually usd a lot more than you think most triallers i know use it they also use earpinches for reminders to pay attention under the idea that in the ring you can then pat ears and the dog knows what will come

in regards to what none as far as accepting breeds for trianing sas far as i was told their attitude is simply the pitbull is not a recognised breed of the ankc so cant be shown other than that nothing.

Ok checked with the vca there is no reaseon that a pt bull cant go to a vca affiiated club what i was told is rubbish. So basically they cant really turn you away unless its in their club rules and regs i guess but then who'd want to go to a club that is discriminitive against breed something to think about I just had this argument but the club doesnt want them me:why because of the damage they can do Me: but so can other breeds rottys have a powerful bite. why should we allow them Me; well we should allow all dogs regardless of breed thast different Me Why So basically the vca says its up to the clubs its an inhouse thing

so its a personality thing then she is learning and fast by the sounds of it she just isnt nutso about things which i think is cool each tot heir own i couldnt handle a nutso dog would drive me nuts

He seems fine today half through his course of antibiotics so four more days of that he wasnt limping today when he went out to pee i can start gentle swimming end of next week

i cant see a problem with this pup she sounds like shes doing really well is it a personality thing more than a trianing thing

thast assuming the vca are saying this i still have to verify the info i got and will tomorrow at club

vca library has it

HEs much better playing and lively still sore in the leg of course but begging to go for a walk he has to wait a bit longer though

yes our bc loves her orbee best toy to her she loves food to and ts great for precision but she doesnt snatch food at all i nevr get drool hands lol