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I would be careful with the wings due to the fat around them, the fat is right under the skin so to reduce the fat content, you need to skin whatever part you give her as opposed to chicken frames which are just that: the frames when all the meat has been taken off. Re the frames and their size: what Greytdog and SecretKei have said. How is she today? Hope she is better .

I'm pretty sure I saw something about them in the latest Urban Animal - I think I still have it and I will take another look. Their article on treats and the processes some go through horrified me. I always look at where things are made now and buy only Australia and check the processes the food has been subjected to.

I didn't think of the hardness of knuckly bones being a danger to teeth. I can just see in mind's eye dogs munching and scraping and twisting the bone this way and that and having a great time. Roo tails might be a way to go for mine if they are loo fat. (Pancreatitis in the dog family .)

Any sudden change in diet can cause diarrhoea. Maybe she had a bit too much? Lamb is very fatty. A lot of people on DOL recommend giving the whole chicken frame to the dog. I can't help with the chicken necks vs lamb necks in terms of keeping teeth clean because my dogs won't eat chicken necks and lamb is too fatty for them. Don't worry too much, but just keep an eye on her and if it continues, off to the vet.

There are some that are made of sweet potatoe but I haven't found them yet. My dogs love the vegetarian ones, but they don't last long. I used them as a treat, really, not something they can chew on for ages unfortunately. I've been trying to find something they can chew on and enjoy. See my thread on Rawhide Chews: http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=169505

I don't know that roo tails will last long with Dante and they can be expensive. I bought some Kangaroo Jerky (the meat which is cut in strips and dried) yesterday - it was quite expensive and even with my little dogs, it didn't last long. Yes. Ask the butcher to show them to you and they look like the classic cartoon bone with a big knob on either end and the straight bit in the middle. I'll see if I can find a picture. Bone.jpg.doc

Hi Pandii, saw your name and thought I'd pop in to see what you were chatting about. I suggest you go to the butcher and get some large knuckle bones. If they have some meat left on them all the better. They are big enough that Dante can't scoff them all at once and she will have the most wonderful time knawing on them. Let's know how you go.

I'm going to check with my vet, but in the meantime, thought I'd ask here. On the packaging of dried kangaroo tail it stated something along the lines of lots of meat and marrow. As the marrow in other bones is a no no for my little dog with pancreatitis, would it be the same with kangaroo - seeing that kangaroo meat is supposed to be low fat?

I spent ages in Pet Barn this afternoon, nearly at all the bits and pieces of the poor animals. I bought some kangaroo jerky and some beef ears. There was pandemonium when I started to hand them out - they just had so much fun and little foster dog Mundy didn't know (in the great Irish saying) whether to sh*t or go blind,

That's why I'm asking if anyone knows where they aren't pumped full of cr*p . If they were just scraped and dried rawhide, they'd probably be great .... but the smell would probably be enough to make us leave home I'm looking for something to keep them going for a long time. The chews (bad as they are) keep them going for days. However, I am off to Pet Barn today so I will have a look at them and see how long they keep the dogs going. Thanks. I also want product made in Australia. O/seas product is becoming too be a risk.

Thanks, I know that 150% and I am certainly not talking about pigs ears or snouts or anything like that - and which is why I can't even give her bones. Rawhide chews have the fatty underneath skin residue scraped off. Rawhide chews actually come from the leather industry.

Because I have one dog who has had quite a serious bout of pancreatitis, I have been advised by vets never to give her raw bones, which means the others miss out too. They all like rawhide chews and I have always had these on hand. However, having read in the latest Urban Animal the process the hides are put through I am somewhat horrified at the amount of chemicals, bleach etc that is used. Is there anywhere I can get chews which are not put through this process? My dogs are all small (6.5kg and less). Thanks.

Poor At, poor you. This used to happen with Nammu (long since gone to god), but he was a little Maltese so I didn't exactly have to tie him down . First time it happened, I rang the vet in huge panic, but after that first time, I managed not to panic. I would just keep an eye on him in case it was taking too long - not good to let it get too dry . His penis would gradually go back into the sheath.

Thanks for the linky reminder, Miss Squish.... just read it all over again.

Lovely lovely lovely lovely !!!

"Marnie and Me" Hmmmm, sounds like good title for a book . . . . . . . .

Hopefully the itchies will clear up very quickly. Please keep us up to date. Best of luck with it all.

Tinkerbell2009a, your little dog is obviously very much loved and she sure has you wrapped around her little paws :D . Shih Tzus have lots of personality and she certainly seems to follow that. It certainly seems that your get at great deal of enjoyment from her and it is great that you are concerned to do the right thing by her. What breed is your other dog? Don't stress too much over the food, but it is important you get her onto good quality food and there is lots of information in those other threads to help you. If you are interested to get her onto raw food, just try mixing the raw with the cooked in an ever increasing ratio, eg start off with approx 1/3rd raw and 2/3rd cooked and just keep on adjusting once she seems happy with that mixture. Does your vet stock BARF or Tucker Time? These are prepared foods and very good quality, difference being that BARK is raw and Tucker Time is cooked. You could get Tucker Time to use as treats. It is not necessary to leave food down for the dogs. Dogs aren't grazers, they eat meals very quickly and are looking around for more. Give them their food, twice a day and that's it. Use good quality foods (eg chicken, cheese) in tiny little bits as rewards.

Others have given you diet and allergy advise, but I would like to add that you should stop bathing her so often. Dogs' skins and coats are not made to be bathed so often. Brush her daily by all means, but you are bathing her much too often. If she gets a bit muddy, just wipe her feet or around her mouth, but the bathing is just not good for her.

If someone showed me to my room, pointed at me and said: go to you bed, I'd probably growl too. Just because this man breeds and has boarding kennels doesn't mean he knows anything about dogs. Probably knows less than I do - LOL. At least I know not to start ordering a dog around within 2 seconds of meeting him. If he'd crouched down, talked sweetly and calmly to the dog and showed him his bed with little treat in hand, none of this would have happened. Poor dog - thank god he has you on his side. And, yes, I have a dog (admittedly a small dog) who growls all the time too. We go to bed and Danny spends the first 1/2hour growling at every movement and the smallest twitch that I or one of the other dogs might make. Drives me mad, and nothing stops him. Sometime he is so bad that I take his muzzle in my hand to shut him up .

Oink used to have something along those lines in her signature. I will have to see if it is still there. The photo of Dusty with his lovely blue blanket from Santa is very precious :p ;) . I am sure that one is in your book.

Oh, Pandii. Such a sad sad day for you all.

Oh Wow! My old joints are a bit on the creaky side and all the dogs and Gussy Cat are getting on in years. I should start on it for all of us.

Oh, I so want to see a photo of him, Trish - pretty please.

I reckon Mundy would be quite happy with a carrot, but as for the others