Loving my Oldies

Yes! They must be physically and emotionally exhausted. My heart aches for them and for Cyan.

Whether you think you own nothing or not, anyone who dies intestate leaves a potential nightmare for those left behind. Aren't you in a partnership? That needs to be considered as well. :) ETA: If you work, you have superannuation.

I've been following the FB page as well. The people must be exhausted. It is hard to believe that so many people can be out searching and no sign or her at all. It is a big big area and dogs can travel very quickly, particularly when they are scared and spooked. It must be such a harrowing thing to go through, for anyone who loses a pet or has one stolen. But to be involved in a smash they way these people were, they have to put their own shock and fears aside to concentrate on finding their dogs. Hopefully Cyan will be hungry enough to come out of hiding is that is what she is doing.

Don't leave it to hope and expectation. Make the arrangements formal via your will and bequests to cover.

Hardly. But you have such strong views on this I thought you'd help a sister out :laugh: Thanks for helping prove my point by the way. Oh, people have strong views but when it comes to stepping up then that's another matter entirely. I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and why you'd expect me to be knocking at your door. . But, as always, the health and happiness of my dogs take precedence over everything else and so off to tend to them :) and leave this thread to the degeneration that most of any substance take I think you are mistaking me for Jo. No, I was talking to both of you.

She was the last thought on mind last night. The accident happened on 2 April. How much longer could she go on?

Hardly. But you have such strong views on this I thought you'd help a sister out :laugh: Thanks for helping prove my point by the way. Oh, people have strong views but when it comes to stepping up then that's another matter entirely. I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and why you'd expect me to be knocking at your door. . But, as always, the health and happiness of my dogs take precedence over everything else and so off to tend to them :) and leave this thread to the degeneration that most of any substance take

This is getting stupid, but then how silly of me to expect more . . . . . so sad

Hardly.

That is fantasic news, LisaCC. You must be over the moon. And it is probably a good thing that Ruby waits to be put onto the bed, but more so, helped off. It is so nice to read of such a result.

I was asked in another thread what arrangements I have made for my dogs when I die. I knew this subject had been addressed on several occasions and because it is always timely to remind people, I have put some links here: http://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/192101-retirement-homes-for-dogs/page__p__4411022__hl__%22trust+fund%22__fromsearch__1#entry4411022 http://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/169776-what-would-happen-to-your-dog-if-you-died/page__p__3765879__hl__%22trust+fund%22__fromsearch__1#entry3765879 http://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/135367-is-your-dog-in-your-legal-will/page__p__2666456__hl__%22trust+fund%22__fromsearch__1#entry2666456

As sad as your losing Kenny is, I don't know what this has to do with someone asking for her dog to be killed when she died.

It doesn't mean that her statements should go undiscussed or unchallenged. It doesn't matter whether a person is compassionate or not, this is an open forum and as such views can be agreed with, disagreed with, discussed and challenged. Frankly, I don't believe your story belongs here, because your situation was as far removed for Toffee's as it was possible to be. :) DD go for your life as you appear to be running this thread. Sorry for even speaking about death and dogs. I have no idea what you are talking about Nic, but it appears I have offended you and I am sorry. What I meant is that Toffee was a healthy dog, in the prime of life. Annie was elderly and her health heavily comprised. And I don't recall you ever mentioned it, so only from what I recall, I don't believe your father asked for her to be euthanised when he died.

OMH!! Fantastic news. I hope the people who took her are prosecuted, but I imagine she was taken anonomously to the vet.

It doesn't mean that her statements should go undiscussed or unchallenged. It doesn't matter whether a person is compassionate or not, this is an open forum and as such views can be agreed with, disagreed with, discussed and challenged. Frankly, I don't believe your story belongs here, because your situation was as far removed for Toffee's as it was possible to be. :)

Maybe, but it still doesn't make it right. Should not be the owners right IMO. This dog could've found another owner in need of an assistance dog. Selfish owner. Selfish AND cruel.

And of course you know, unequivocally, that Toffee did not experience pain or distress.

Your argument totally lacks logic and judgement. We are not discussing other people and other dogs. We are discussing the fact (one many posters are totally missing or deliberately avoiding simply so they can bang their own discordant drums) that a guide dog, healthy, happy, highly trained, in the prime of life was killed because of the arrogance, self centred and self rigtheous attitude of a poorly advised woman and her family.

And how does that answer Rascal's question?

I have to say I am getting pretty jacked off with all these posts about "my dog this and my dog that". For sure, there are some dogs with such severe behavioural and/or psychological issues that there probably wouldn't be too many people who could cope with them. Toffee was a trained dog, young, healthy, in the prime of her life. And those who are asking where is the cruelty, well all I can say is that you are arrogant and very short sighted. Cruelty is done when a life is taken unnecessarily, whether the creature knows that life is being taken is beside the point. Those doing the taking know. And for my own "my dog this and my dog that". My Danny is 14. There is no way I would ask that he be killed if I died. He is happy, healthy, enjoys life and, to me, it would be arrogance in the extreme sense to believe that he could not be happy if I weren't around.

By that logic, only cases (of anything) judged to be extreme should be discussed . So you would ignore a child who was been beaten, because somewhere else in the world a child is being raped. You would ignore and not discuss a dog who is on a metre chain because somewhere else in the world a dog is being savagely beaten. Now don't accuse me of being over the top or over emotional, because that is the way your post come across. Very flawed and, frankly, very scary logic. In fact it is not logical at all.

Nothing on the last one, Cyan. The searchers have been out all day. Such an awful thing to happen to anyone.

Oh that makes my blood run cold. Thank god Puck is alright, Kirislin. On Easter Monday last year, I had to rush Myrtie to emergency as she had food (a piece of roo jerky) stuck in her throat. Luckily they were able to draw it out with forceps without doing any damage, but it was a damned scarey experience.

Makes me think of Wreckit's post about the Guide PTS in which she says that like it or not, dogs are property. That is all very well, but it doesn't help to reinforce that sort of belief because in some people it becomes warped and they become thieves because they see something they like. In this case, people who steal other people's dogs, that is the way their horrible minds work. They don't see a dog as a loved and integral family member. They don't see that the little dog will be terrified and missing its family and other dogs. They want, they take. Frankly, if they are caught, the punishment should be an eye for and eye, in that they should have to identify something they love (not a living thing of course, but an item of clothing or similar) and watch while it is destroyed. I hope Pixel is found safe and well.

Really . I disagree Can't be overdone when such a travesty has been enacted upon an innocent creature.