Loving my Oldies

IMO - no, don't offer them any money at this stage. Just keep going the way you are, letting the dog in (forgetting to put her back :D :D ), wait until you think is the right moment and offer to buy her because your dogs and your baby love her so much. Little anecdote of my own :D . I used to see a tiny black Pomeranian sitting neglected on a front porch. The people used to go away camping at weekends, taking their much larger dog with them and leaving the little Pom alone. I considered stealing him (let the stones fly people :laugh: :laugh: ) but realised I'd never be able to give him the life my dogs had (lots of walks and trips to the park) because the people lived just a couple of streets away from me. So I shillied and shallied, even took him to the vet once for treatment which they were more than happy for me to do and paid up well over $100 without a blink. When I finally offered to buy him, the women said that had I asked about 18 months ago, she would have said yes, but they had started to take him with them on the weekends away and he loved it. So, it is a fine line you will need to draw.

Sheilaheel02, your post is just so so important for people to read. It is all very well for someone to say: oh, my family/friends/neighbours just love my dogs. I know they will be looked after if something happens to me. Different story if something does happen. Suddenly people are faced with the prospect of adding one or more dogs/cats/birds/other pet to an already settled household. I have five dogs and one cat. The youngest dog is 10 and the cat is 15+. Who would want to take on those unless I provided funds for someone to do so. No one that I can think of.

Good luck, Louise6616 ... and hugs to the little dog.

I don't have any advice because it depends so much on the people. I am dealing with a similar issue at the moment. Morons across the road have a little pup who is confinded 24 hours a day seven days a week in a small front courtyard with no outlook to anywhere. Why people get dogs and treat them like this is incomprehensible to most people. It is just so heartbreaking. In your situation, where they have already let her visit you and your dogs, if you are able to take her and she gets on well with your dogs, I'd bite the bullet and ask if you can adopt her.

I don't understand this logic... Well the first mistake is to assume that council determinations are logical ... don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Please ensure those who are closest to her know this, so something doesn't happen to the dog before you are informed. As you say, hopefully she will have many more years with her dog yet.

Yes. I have charts for all my dogs and a folder with every docket, receipt, vet visit, etc etc. for each dog and my cat.

Your post is totally on the mark, dogmad. However, the difference between the place referred to and pounds is that this place has had many many episodes over the years and, whereas I have not seen them with my own eyes, I have had many talks with the first hand observers/workers/volunteers of the conditions that have existed and, apparently still do despite thousands of dollars in donations being spent on new premises. The difference between this place and dogs in foster care via a reputable rescuer is that a dog involved in a fatality is immediately euthanised - same if a dog is unable to be handled through aggression. A dog in foster care is given training and every opportunity to show that it can be rehabilitated and, if after time, it is obvious that the dog cannot be rehabilitated and is suffering, then it is euthanised. Sadly (and I will be haunted until my dying day), I have experienced both: a foster dog killed one of my own dogs and I had to euthanise a dog I'd rescued because she was aggressive and obviously suffering.

For all of those people who say my mum/sister/aunt/friend/whoever will look after my dog: 1. Never assume 2. Make sure you have discussed it with them 3. Put it in your will 4. Ensure funds are bequeathed to the people who are going to look after your animals.

How does stuff like this get overlooked I dont understand. It isn't overlooked, but some people are considered untouchable. Who is going to take action or try to change a mindset that is set in stone ?

Surely the dogs will have to be put down ? Particularly if there have been complaint. Too quick Kirislin. My sentiments entirely And me . I let out a yelp when I read she'd had puppies. Definitely report and get the person's name. Even if the rangers do nothing which seems to be par for the course in many places, you have a record.

There were a few instances that involved the same bitch (corgi x) and she was not kept on her own until the third fight and third dead dog. After that, all the dogs involved in a fatal fight were separated from others for a number of days and then slowly introduced back into pairs (usually male/female with one clearly the 'boss'). Gosh, that is horrendous.

What was the procedure when dogs were killed?

Yes. Her older dogs are black (a male and a female) and she now has a greyish one who is probably about 18 months plus old now, called Zephyr. He must be one of the other types of Belgians ??

There is a lady in my neighbourhood with three Belgians but I have forgotten whether they are Groenedaels - I think they might be. They are lovely dogs and from what I've seen of them, would tend to believe you are spot on.

Ditto. She just needs to get out and about to places where there are lots of dogs of different breeds running around - borrowing one of yours, kiwifeathers, :laugh: to give her the confidence to do so. Good luck - hope the ideal companion is found soon and that you keep us informed.

Ah yes, the ideal. Sadly I think some people think their job is done when the dog is out of the pound. And then there are those who think they have reached the apex of their business and nothing needs to change despite obvious and tragic failings. HappyCamper, this problem has been discussed over and over and over again and with absolutely no affect on a couple of large and long standing rescue organisations. Unfortunately, some organisations/sole operators do not see that they have a problem and do not visit DOL (which is not to say that DOL is the be all and end all - far from it LOL). However, if these discussions can influence any people coming new into the rescue world they certainly need to be raised and refreshed at regular intervals. There was a discussion here some years ago about whether exchanging one cage for another constituted rescue. Some other DOL who is more search savvy than I am might be able to find it.

The photo makes it look as though she won. Did she? She sure looks determined whatever the result :laugh: :laugh:

I can't help but wonder how sick the people who donated to Dante's release must be feeling.

OMG! How totally totally special to see dogs having such a wonderful time.

Well they might have been in the pound, but once at Monika's, the terminology would be purely for marketing purposes. However, if it gets them into new permanent homes, so be it. I can't hear any of the voices, so can't really comment on what was said.

or name children! i will save my comments re the OP as they would get me kicked off the forum. Total tragedy. Those children's names should have been enough to raise dozens of red flags FFS.

Hopefully, she will be barking with happiness in her new life. She looks very sweet.

OP might be a dude, but he works 9-5 plus travelling time to be added to that. Not a good scenario for a happy well-adjusted dog. Disagree. I've worked the entire time I've had dogs. As do the majority of people. +1 I don't think my guys have even realised I'm home today instead of being at work, they are going about their normal business. That's the point. Plural.

OP might be a dude, but he works 9-5 plus travelling time to be added to that. Not a good scenario for a happy well-adjusted dog.