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Perhaps my use of the words "scott free" was inconsidered. What I meant, was that despite the severity of the attacks on HazyWal's dogs and consequent injuries to herself, the woman and her dogs are going to be unaffected, except for the fines. Maybe not scott free in financial terms but certainly scott free in terms of being held responsible and being seen to be held responsible by the relevant authorities.

Maybe, perhaps, it might be the case. NO ONE HERE KNOWS or if they do, they aren't saying. All this speculation about extendable leads, where the jogger was in relation to the dogs ..... just so much blame the victim b*llsh*t. Makes me so angry. Oh and as for dogs the size of Greys and Dobes being on extender lead, come and walk in my area, Amax-1. Extendable leads are the vogue for all sorts and all sizes of dogs, but only one breed of human: stupid.

It won't be long before he is bigger than Isla and they may have to swap: Isla in the crate and new puppy out. :laugh: :laugh:

It is no wonder that some people end up taking the law into their own hands. If the laws of our country can't provide us with justice, where do we turn? Naturally, I am not talking about revenge; I am talking about the perpetrator taking responsibility and making amends. HW and her dogs have been severely injured, physically and emotionally and financially, and the perpetrator is allowed to shrug her shoulders and walk away scott free.

Stunning, amazing, gobsmacking, jaw dropping.

Atta Boy Lots of treats due to him.

I'm sure you will get lots of help with the specific questions, but I have have one, no two, things to say: 1. Congratulations. Groomers down the road from me breed standards and some of their dogs are truly beautiful in looks and in nature. 2. You won't screw up, just don't overthink it :laugh: :laugh: Oh, just thought of a third: 3. Have FUN

I'm so out of the "rescue world" now that I don't know what this means. Is Mel a transporter taking the dogs to various rescues/foster. It is a long time since I've had that wonderful feeling of going to a pound and releasing a dog for myself, another rescuer, or to take him/her to the airport. Just to bring me up to date, thanks :) :) .

HW what about a letter including photographs to your local, State and Federal Members, and the editor of the local paper? Including information about how the Council seems to absolve itself from these issues?

I think a couple of you are being a bit silly and, dare I say it, self righteous :) . For sure, many of us have been around for a long time and know all the dangers and pitfalls that face roaming dogs anywhere, not just in farming land. And we've heard lots of your stories about " the neighbours dog being shot" - --- it seems to me some of you revel in your shooting stories. WOW !!!! Big brave frontier people :laugh: :laugh: However, there are ways and means. Where is Skyeedacidson now, I wonder. Hopefully she is still reading this, but she would have been better served by telling her what dangers are there without calling her stupid. I certainly don't play with unicorns and, frankly OsoSwift, saying silly things like that does you no credit and certainly doesn't make your arguments any more persuasive. There are as many "wild" (substitute ignorant shall we?) people living in the city as are in the bush.

That has to be just convenient f**king bullshit. The woman has committed a crime by not having her dogs properly contained; they have attacked other dogs; they have injured a civilian. How can they possible stand behind: it isn't in our remit.

I totally understand where you are coming from. However, what if the person you want to understand that reality is no longer around to learn because of being flamed when she didn't understand the consequences of what she was doing?The best teacher in the world won't make a scrap of difference if there is no one to listen to her/him .

Great work Broken Hill rescuers

Oh, that is such good news, Airedaler. You must be very happy - your niece as well. Hopefully no setbacks and some beautiful dogs will be making their ways out into the world before too long.

See post #177 :laugh: :laugh:

You certainly aren't . I might be defaming some good people, but very generally speaking, I think council workers are extremely under-committed and not at all bothered whether they do a good job or not. From some of the stories told on this forum, it seems to be getting worse.

LOL - nothing like resurrecting old threads :laugh: We never did get any updates from shyfig. What a shame as it is good to hear the good and/or the bad. If I were looking for a trainer, I'd be running a mile from anyone calling themselves a "whisperer" of any description.

How really thoughtful of you, Rebanne (and other DOLers too apparently ). Unfortunately, that just lets the owner of the attacking dogs off the hook. What a miserable piece of work she is turning out to be. Obviously her solicitor is an "ambulance chaser". HazyWal, tell us where she lives and a posse of us will parade up and down with relevant placades . .

I agree with this. And I also like Diva's response saying that both owners are responsible. It occurs to me that we are all too ready to want to and to actually apportion blame. Bad things happen because someone takes their eyes of the ball - it happens to everyone. Of course, some things are totally blameworthy, but we are all fallible humans. Responsibility.

Please don't be harsh like this, OsoSwift. I now you are grinding your teeth at a dog being on a chain and the OP is hoping to be able to let her roam free at some stage. But Skyeedavidson has come on here seeking advice and solutions and does love her dog very much. I think a little restraint would ensure that she stays with us and continues to learn. :) :)

I'll bet you are. You've had a totally shocking experience, HW. The weather isn't much help, either: rainy, cold, dark. At least you don't need an excuse to spend your time tucked up cosily with Maddie and Stan. Lots of rest and warmth for all of you over the coming days.

As I said Kirislin, I can only advise, it is up to the owners to decide whether to take that advice or not. Most of the advise I have given has been taken but this lot seems to be only selectively taken on board. How sad for everyone involved: humans, mum and pups. Maybe it is just all too much for your niece. The stress of caesarian, mum killng one of the pups, then another one dying. It is all pretty intense, both physically and emotionally. Your niece may not be up to the fight, particularly with the risk that she may lose them all. I'm not a breeder, never have been, but when I read some of these stories, I realise how difficult it can be and how it can often be coupled with a lot of sorrow.

Could not agree more; in fact I started to say something along these lines when another poster said she was pleased that the woman had paid the vet bills, but still needed to do more. Unless she sees what her dogs have done, she can still put it all at arms length. She needs to see and understand the physical damage.

What about a photograph, please Esky, so totally un-DIYers like I am, have some idea. Thanks.

I have to go along with this. Skyeedavidson, your girl may become 100% reliable in time, but if your property is not secure what about other dogs coming onto your property. You mention she is so intelligent and obliging, you'd hate to see that personality changed if other dogs were to attack her. And that is such a danger if she is on a chain. She'd have no chance. Sorry, a dog tethered and unsupervised gives me the horrors. They are very very vulnerable.