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the drama here isnt disputing what they were advised, its the way in which dogs are being identified by persons who are not qualified to do so (amstaff people or not) and the ridiculous way they are temperment tested... if everyone had to subject their dog in the same situation how many could honestly say their dog would pass? No my dog would not pass....breeders are not qualified no one is in Aus thats been proven in a court of law. l would be seeking civil action against the B.A & T.T its just rubbish. tybrax

This is a load of rubbish.........total rubbish. Yes there are 3 Amstaff breeders involved in this shite........

Great news, it beats me a place like Australia cant get the common sence vibe. 10 POINTS FOR THAT 1 :rolleyes: TYBRAX

http://www.iadcro.com/informationcongress.html IADCRO informs: The First International IADCRO Congress has been everything a success, where the attending public has been very satisfied with the action with the rapporteurs, showing to them his endorsement and support in this right cause, which is the cause of all animal lovers. In this Congress, we have shown to the Spanish Government, our complete disagreement with the present Law of the Potentially Dangerous Dogs (Law PPP or BSL), under the scientific point of view. For the information of all you, enclosed the four communications of the participants in the First International IADCRO Congress , Saturday 13 of June in the hall Plenary sessions of the Municipal Meeting of the City council of Moratalaz, Madrid, Spain. tybrax

Excellent post Paulini

You cant go off of everything you read without having experienced it first hand. So true.......

Great News tybrax

Rex are you an animal control officer??????? Congratulations Greymate job well done tybrax

APBT l agree, l would of also adopted the little fellow. Disgusting, it's just murder poor little mite never had a chance just a baby. tybrax

Killing of puppy 43063 Disgusting http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?p=1278 tybrax.

Government Admits Dangerous Dogs Act Mistake June 8, 2009 by Alison Green (just a shame they haven’t actually done anything to fix their error all these years on!) Twelve years on and thousands of dogs later…. Today is a special day for anti BSL campaigners within England, Scotland and Wales as 12 years ago our government did something amazing. They held their hands up, said “We made a mistake” and took the first step towards correcting that mistake by amending the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991, a piece of legislation that has cost thousands of innocent lives. Prior to 8th June 1997 a dog branded “pit bull type” had to be killed regardless of how wonderful and friendly a pet the dog was or how responsible an owner. Any dog fitting the loose description of “type” died by lethal injection. After the 8th June 1997 however the courts were able to use their discretion when sentencing and could allow a dog that posed no danger to the public, to live. The dogs had to be entered onto the Index of Exempted Dogs and owners had to abide by strict restrictions but we no longer had mandatory destruction of dogs based on their physical appearance and the Dangerous Dogs Act (Amendment) 1997 came into force. For those who stood against the mindless killing of pet dogs this was indeed a triumph, a rare occurrence of the Government admitting it had made a mistake. Sheer hard work, constant pressure and quite literally blood, sweat and tears brought about a change that would save some dogs from death by lethal injection. I was originally going to write about what has happened since and take a look at what the future may hold but as I was nearly finished a picture came into my mind, a picture that illustrated what some have already been saying, the amendment is NOT enough. The picture in my mind was of a dog called Oscar. Oscar is a ghost, a dog that haunts me often. A beautiful red lad with a wonderful family who adored him. Oscar was a “wonky dog” who had been saved by a young lad who himself was very ill. He saw himself in Oscar and took him home as a young pup. Oscar and his new owner kept each other going until one day Oscar was seized. I spoke with Oscar’s family almost daily as they waited to go to court and win him back. They were so excited that he would be coming home but worried about his health problems and the care he would get in kennels. Messages regarding treatment was relayed to the Police and assurance’s it would be done given. Waiting for court was stressful as Oscar’s owner’s condition worsened and as court dates came and went without them, concerns arose. There’s little point explaining all the ins and outs, you probably already know where it ended. For me the fight for Oscar ended with a phone call. A heartbroken screaming down the phone “they have killed him “. Over and over and over, heart wrenching sobs as the realisation they would never see Oscar, their “wonky dog” again, began to hit home. The police had logged Oscar incorrectly on their computer. He had been destroyed some time previously as a stray dog; his body had been disposed of. Oscar was gone. We have the amendment but it didn’t save Oscar. We brought in the law, we brought in the amendment and we stopped bothering to change it anymore. Because of this Oscar died. There are others like Oscar. There’s over a hundred that didn’t go home within the Met police alone recently. Seized and held in “secure kennels” with a “duty of care” to provide for those dogs, to protect them yet they failed. Some of the dogs that die in “police care” may not be “pit bull type” so if your reading this thinking your dog is safe, think again. There’s hundreds being killed in rescue centres and pounds across the country. We have tried to gather figures on exact numbers killed in London but few seem to have any. We know its at least 100 in London alone over the last year, probably much more. There are dogs being “identified” by people whose decision is going unchallenged, as owners don’t know where to turn, feel there is no alternative. Those dogs are dying too. Dogs like Cassie. Her owners knew she wouldn’t cope with being away from her family. They cuddled her weeping as her life ebbed away. There are dogs like Barney and Missey. Seized and registered but the confines of “secure kennels” has had its affect on them and they are unable to settle back into family life. Barney’s owner rang me after he let Barney go. “ We never really win do we?” he asked and we don’t. The dogs don’t win and neither does the public. Everybody loses and the dogs are still dying even with the amendment. These ghosts are a mere drop in the ocean of lost souls. These are some of the ones we know of, some of the ones we hoped to save. For each dog we know of you can be sure another dog at least has also lost its life. It’s been twelve years since the Government gave limited discretion to the courts allowing some dogs to live. Twelve years since any change was made to the worst piece of legislation this country has known. We are offered our medication to accept this by way of “Leave at home” policies but while we may cheer and pat ourselves on the backs this offers little for the dogs. Do you intend to wait another 12 years before Section one of the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 is repealed for good? Facebook DDA Group http://ddawatch.webs.com/index.htm Say No to Breed Specific Legislation Author Details Alison is a long time dog owner and dangerous dog legislation observer who lives with her family and four Bull Breed dogs in Sussex. - See this author's webpage Related posts: 1.MPs Line Up to Call For Dangerous Dogs Act Review 2.DEFRA: Why Are You So Ashamed of The Dangerous Dogs Act? 3.RSPCA Speaks Out Over BSL & Dangerous Dogs Act 4.Another Dangerous Dogs Act Canine Welfare Scandal: Dogs Continue to Die in “Police Care” 5.The Dangerous Dogs Act: It’s Time For Breed Specific Legislation To Go & Go Now

The breed assessment is visual unbelievable and there experts what a joke. tybrax

Well thats is totally silly and they are waiting for someone to highlight this to help the breed ! IVY where are you!! IF the so called dogs being assessed are so "Pit bully " and all the talk that surrounds these dogs , it would be plain common sense that for PUBLIC Safety it was not a good idea to meet in a PUBLIC Place frequented by families etc, a secure area should be needed . This to me states the APBT is not really a danger to the public! Just another big rigmarole of rubbish I feel in the whole RB serenade! Just my honest Opinion, seen to many APBT and crosses that are far to lovely to be labelled the way they are at times. J l totally agree with you desexemall, like l said there no way l would be meeting at McDonalds or even a park. tybrax

l would not be taking my dog to MacDonalds at all. Bustam please contact me through my website. http://www.victimsofbsl.com/home.htm Thanks bully. tybrax

Gorgeous video tybrax

I'm Still Here Friend, please don't mourn for me I'm still here, though you don't see. I'm right by your side each night and day and within your heart I long to stay. My body is gone but I'm always near. I'm everything you feel, see or hear. My spirit is free, but I'll never depart as long as you keep me alive in your heart. I'll never wander out of your sight- I'm the brightest star on a summer night. I'll never be beyond your reach- I'm the warm moist sand when you're at the beach. I'm the colorful leaves when fall comes around and the pure white snow that blankets the ground. I'm the beautiful flowers of which you're so fond, The clear cool water in a quiet pond. I'm the first bright blossom you'll see in the spring, The first warm raindrop that April will bring. I'm the first ray of light when the sun starts to shine, and you'll see that the face in the moon is mine. When you start thinking there's no one to love you, you can talk to me through the Lord above you. I'll whisper my answer through the leaves on the trees, and you'll feel my presence in the soft summer breeze. I'm the hot salty tears that flow when you weep and the beautiful dreams that come while you sleep. I'm the smile you see on a baby's face. Just look for me, friend, I'm everyplace! Author Unknown Pandii and family l am so sorry for your loss, such a beautiful boy R.I.P. tybrax.

EmailPrintText SizeProtective Pit Bull Wins 'Dog of Valor' Award Posted: May 21, 2009 6:04 AM Updated: May 21, 2009 10:30 PM FEATURED VIDEO Heroic Pit Bull Wins National Award Enlarge this picture D-boy was shot three times last December while protecting his family from an intruder. Enlarge this picture D-boy, having made a full recovery, runs joyfully through a metro park. The community helped the family pay for the dog's medical expenses. Enlarge this picture The Shoemaker family, along with D-boy, poses for a picture with Cynthia Armstrong of the Oklahoma Humane Society.By Amy Lester, NEWS 9 OKLAHOMA CITY -- D-boy, an Oklahoma City family's pit bull, received a special honor for bravely saving his family from an intruder. D-boy suffered injuries in December after the intruder shot him three times. Oklahoma City residents came to the support of the heroic dog, helping the Shoemaker family with D-boy's medical expenses. The Humane Society of United States held an online poll. After more than 6,000 people voted, the Dog of Valor, People's Hero Award was given to D-Boy. It was just six months ago, D-boy was recovering after an intruder shot him three times. The dog scared the man out of his family's house and kept the Shoemakers safe. "If he wouldn't have distracted the guy, the guy probably would've shot me," said Roberta Shoemaker. "I didn't know what to do he told me to get down on the ground, and I was so scared, I couldn't move." D-boy saved the lives of everyone there on that fateful day. "If he wasn't there and wouldn't have done what he did, I could've came home to no family," Angelic Shoemaker said. The family knows how special D-Boy is and now the rest of the country is showing its love for a dog who went beyond the call of duty. Out of 15 finalists, D-Boy walked away with the Humane Society of the United States' Dog of Valor award. "D-boy's story really touched the heart of the majority of the voters and he won the dog version of the People's Choice Award," said Cynthia Armstrong, director of the Oklahoma Humane Society of the U.S. It's an honor his family hopes will change people's views of pit bulls. "All pits are not bad," Roberta Shoemaker said. "I mean, just because of the breed of the dog, doesn't mean they're bad." There's no question D-boy's exceptional, and his family plans to stand by him for years to come. "We love him," Angelic Shoemaker said. "We're grateful to have him in our lives." D-Boy will also receive a sterling silver dog tag for winning the award. http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=10397551 TYBRAX

Woo hoo welcome back Scott tybrax

DOGFIGHT DECIDER ON BREED BRAWL. GOLD COAST SUN NEWS 6.5.2009. Brent Melville. STAFFY RESULTS MAY HAVE CANINE CONSEQUENCES FOR COUNCILS. A five year battle to get the Gold Coast City Council into the Supreme Court and a dog named Tango out of 'exile' in NSW is finally expected to come to fruition in June or July. Gold Coast woman Kylie Chivers is challenging the council's now abandoned identification method that resulted in Tango being deemed a banned pit bull terrier. A win for Ms. Chivers could open the way for dog owners who have had animals seized and destroyed to sue councils for compensation. Five years ago this month, Tango was put in an animal Motel near Tweed Heads to escape council destruction orders. Ms.Chivers will call on witnessess including the head of Genetics Laboratory in Melbourne and a breed expert form the US, to prove Tango is a pure breed American Staffordshire Terrier. Jon Mokomoko, a paralegal assisting in the case, said the council would have to choose one of the dates in June or July and could delay the case no lomger. "We have filed a notice of intention to proceed on the available dates and the council has a month to prepare their case,"he said. Ms Chivers will be seeking compensation including $30,000 in kennel fees to keep the dog in Tweed Heads, as well as travelling costs. "I they the council concede and seek to settle out of court, they have to settle on our terms," said Mr. Mokomoko. He said Ms Chivers was also planning to take civil action against the council. The Gold Coast City Council refused to comment on the case or confirm it was going ahead.

Thank you sticky tybrax

Thanks sticky permission to cross posts please. tybrax

We are still working strong in Qld with a Supreme court case coming up soon. Will keep you informed. tybrax

I think you'll find It's been the same people fighting BSL for some time, like anything else, these people have become emotionally drained and somewhat disheartened by It all I'm pretty sure though many are still fighting the good fight, It's just not on here We are still fighting behind the scenes with a Supreme Court Case coming up soon. Qld is very quite lately tybrax

Why dont you go away and stop adding fuel to the fire like Tybrax does. How an l adding fuel to the fire RAZ ? Oop's that's right l spoke the truth about the laws, how dare l lnform people of the truth regarding BSL laws. PPS. I'd like to know how people becoming aware of the rights and the responsibilities under the CAA or their appropriate state legislation makes it worse for the breed. Yep and l would like to tell people that the law is.... Fabricated, Fraudulent, based on beliefs and assumptions that the dog is a APBT or X breed. Opps let add extortion in there as well.There are no experts in breed id in Aus.. The law is Criminal in all states that have introduced BSL. PPS. Every dog owner should be aware of what the laws are and be abiding by them. If they don't know them, it's time to learn them and how they can work for you. Every dog owner should be aware that they are being taken for a ride, and fight these laws. Misfeasance- IS THE IMPROPER PERFORMANCE OF A LAW ACT.

Yeah she did. Why dont you dickheads wake up ? Flame away. I cant stand you morons. You affect each breed affected by BSL but you dont give a shit. Nice. Wow Raz l am flattered :rolleyes: But hey l am no moron nor a dickhead:rofl: Its about time the people touting the law on this forum wake up, you's are the ones that make it worse for our breed. You's are asking the Bull breed people to obey a law that's is Fabricated, Fraudulent, based on beliefs and assumptions that the dog is a APBT or X breed. Opps let add extortion in there as well.There are no experts in breed id in Aus.. The law is Criminal in all states that have introduced BSL. l totally understand where Rottidora is coming from with her comments. What you's don't? tybrax