heroeswit Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 (edited) I'm not sure what to do. I have been speaking to my local breeder of my desired breed and she has a litter due on the 6th July but I have also been talking to another breeder from NSW who has one that could go to homes on the 5th of July. The price of each comes to about the same so that isn't really a factor but I'm not sure what to do. Do I wait for the local breeders Litter who I have been dealing with for months or do I get the Puppy that is almost ready to go to homes? The problem I'm having is the fact that I have been speaking with my local breeder for months and I don't know how I can just turn around and say that I have gone and got a dog from another breeder and so I don't need a dog from her. What are your thoughts on this situation and what would you do? Thank You for your comments Edited June 28, 2010 by dwilds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Someones getting impatient!!! Try to remove your heart out of the exercise and just look at what you would be getting. Whose dogs are the healthiest?? Whose dogs are regularly shown at dogshows and what results are they getting? What is the temperaments of the parents like? Which breeder is most likely to give you support and help after you have bought the puppy?? There is no crystal ball available that I know of that can tell you what the best course of action would be. You have to do some investigations for yourself and then you can make an informed decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labsrule Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I think you need to ask yourself why you chose the local breeder in the first place. It also seems that you were happy to wait for a pup from your local breeder, now you are looking at getting one earlier than planned, so what has changed? For my current Lab pup, it was always about the breeder, I wanted the best, so went to the top Labrador breeder who luckily for me is local and I was prepared to wait and was also prepared to be knocked back as well not because I couldn't provide the best home, but because of the breeder's awesome reputation and demand for his pups. As it turned out due to a sequence of events, I ended up getting my pup sooner than expected from this awesome breeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevafollo Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I agree their must have been a reason you chose the breeder you did...go back over why then see if the new breeder ticks all the same boxes then decide. Personally I'd stick with the original plan unless the new breeder was infact better, nicer dogs and had exactly what I wanted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percyk Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 visit both see both parents if you can and i bet youll come home with a puppy lol do what you need to do...ultimately it is your choice...your destiny lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ons Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 which breeder do you feel more comfortable with? which breeder is going to help you with any difficulties that may arise? that's the breeder that I would be going with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heroeswit Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 thanks for the replies guys. The 2nd breeder I was talking to ended up putting the puppy into another home (which is fine by me). my local breeder just had a litter yesterday and I feel comfortable with her dogs and her breeding program. the litter had 5 girls and 6 boys and they all look wonderful even as 1 day olds, the only issue I have is the breeder releasing the puppy to me at 7 weeks instead of 8 she said it is because I live near her so there won't be any stresses on the puppy going to my home that early. Hopefully All goes well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 the only issue I have is the breeder releasing the puppy to me at 7 weeks instead of 8 she said it is because I live near her so there won't be any stresses on the puppy going to my home that early. This is against our state bode is Code of Ethics,if the breeder gets caught they can be charged & fined. I would suggest you either say nothing or appreciate the breeder is bound by there COE to not place before 8 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heroeswit Posted July 6, 2010 Author Share Posted July 6, 2010 the only issue I have is the breeder releasing the puppy to me at 7 weeks instead of 8 she said it is because I live near her so there won't be any stresses on the puppy going to my home that early. This is against our state bode is Code of Ethics,if the breeder gets caught they can be charged & fined. I would suggest you either say nothing or appreciate the breeder is bound by there COE to not place before 8 weeks Suggestion noted Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlc Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Isn't it in the best interest of the pup to stay with the mother and litter mates till 8 weeks?? Nice to have your breeder close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heroeswit Posted July 6, 2010 Author Share Posted July 6, 2010 Isn't it in the best interest of the pup to stay with the mother and litter mates till 8 weeks??Nice to have your breeder close. That's what I thought but she feels that it is the best time to go I plan on working out a way that I pick the pup up closer to 8 weeks since she will have the interstate pups still there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incavale Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 As a breeder, I would strongly recommend that you not take the pup until it is 8 weeks old. The fact that you live close by has nothing to do with releasing a pup early. The last week with its mother is a critical period in development & learning for the pup [from it's mother]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heroeswit Posted July 6, 2010 Author Share Posted July 6, 2010 As a breeder, I would strongly recommend that you not take the pup until it is 8 weeks old. The fact that you live close by has nothing to do with releasing a pup early. The last week with its mother is a critical period in development & learning for the pup [from it's mother]. thats what I thought. the breeder said the mother won't have anything to do with the pups after 7 weeks. but doesn't just the interactions between pups make a difference in the long run? please tell me if I am wrong What does it actually do when pups are taken from their mother and litter early? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genabee Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Our first family dog (who is now 8 and still going with my Parents), was removed from her mother and siblings way too early, we estimate it was at about five or six weeks. She is a beautiful, friendly dog, who just wants to lick you to death! But to this day, we have had issues socialising her with other dogs (despite doing both puppy school and juvenile obedience with her). She doesn't like them, doesn't seem to understand that she is one herself (thinks she is human). She doesn't bite them or anything like that, just tries to run away, almost scared of them. She also gets hyper excited when anyone comes to the door and you can't reason with or distract her. She also exhibits OCD behaviours, which the vet suggested could be because she was removed from her Mum and litter mates too soon. She has been much better in the last few years as she has matured, but she was a handful in her younger days! We collected Genevieve from the breeder just after seven weeks (she was the second to the leave the litter) and just like your breeder has suggested dwilds, apparently Genevieve's mum didn't have much to do with her litter from about seven weeks either. Almost all of the literature I have read, indicates that between seven and eight weeks is the ideal time for pups to go to their forever homes. I am no expert, but I couldn't imagine that three or four days would make a MAJOR difference... We did start puppy school straight away though, after having her home for only three days, so she kept up some interaction with other puppies, all be it less frequently. At this stage, she shows no signs like our last dog, so I am not at all concerned about her coming away from her Mum early. All that being said, I was not aware that there was a regulation relating to the age at which pups can be released to their new homes. I couldn't imagine such a regulation would exist if there wasn't a valid reason. Is this a national regulation or does it only apply to select states? I would be interested to know more about this. If you are really concerned, perhaps discuss it with your breeder, or just say you have a work commitment that week and you would prefer to wait until the following week. If they are a good, responsible breeder, I am sure they would be understanding and wouldn't mind, especially if they are going to still have the other pups there. What is one pup when you have 10 more? Trust your gut instincts and have faith in yourself. Would you bring your baby home from the hospital too early if you thought it still needed to be there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 (edited) All that being said, I was not aware that there was a regulation relating to the age at which pups can be released to their new homes. I couldn't imagine such a regulation would exist if there wasn't a valid reason. Is this a national regulation or does it only apply to select states? I would be interested to know more about this. It is nation wide. 17. A member shall not, within Australia, sell or otherwise transfer from that member’s care any puppy under eight [8] weeks of age without the approval of the member’s Member Body. The reason given certainly isn't good enough Edited July 6, 2010 by showdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Your pup leaving home a few days early isn't going to emotional scar it for life! lol You have another dog living with you already, and that dog is just as capable of continuing the life lessons. I've collected a few dogs at 7 weeks and they are no different to the ones who arrived when older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziah Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Your pup leaving home a few days early isn't going to emotional scar it for life! lolYou have another dog living with you already, and that dog is just as capable of continuing the life lessons. I've collected a few dogs at 7 weeks and they are no different to the ones who arrived when older. I think the major point here is how ethical is this breeder if they are willing to allow a baby puppy under 8 weeks of age to leave their home... It's just not on as far as I'm concerned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiez Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Your pup leaving home a few days early isn't going to emotional scar it for life! lolYou have another dog living with you already, and that dog is just as capable of continuing the life lessons. I've collected a few dogs at 7 weeks and they are no different to the ones who arrived when older. I think the major point here is how ethical is this breeder if they are willing to allow a baby puppy under 8 weeks of age to leave their home... It's just not on as far as I'm concerned... I do agree. When we took our puppy home we ended up waiting till 9 weeks because he was only one of two in the litter and the breeder said it would be good for him to "grow up a bit more" first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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