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so there was no need to have locked them up with the doors closed anyway? double tragedy

I am registering a litter this week, their dad is 9 years old. I suspect this is his 1st litter. He belongs to a friend, he bred him from a pup he bought from me. Wanted a litter before its too late. So glad I did. they are beauties. incorporating so many awesome dogs and kennel names together. Itsozi, Darshu, Adavale, Pureheel, Arizona, Ansavon Red Connie (From the only cattledog litter bred by one of the greatest Border Collie breeders in the ANKC and Connie sure made him proud, two of her puppies won 4 and 8 best in shows for their happy owners ) and of course, Hilton Sinclair's Berrilyn brings us a very real threat to our dogs genetics actually. The bill that didn't make it due to the nsw election being called before the next sitting and it being passed. included that no bitch could have more than 2 litters in her lifetime. AND all males be desexed at 7 years? what would this mean if she had succeeded? The effective elimination from the gene pool of the very dogs we need to keep long-lived genetics in our dogs many conditions that there is no dna marker for do not evidence until the dog is over 6 or 7. MV just to name one suggested over a decade ago that cavalier breeders identify their dogs that have made it to 7, 10 and 15 MV free. OK by which time all the females would be too old to breed anyway. But considering Barbara Striesand cloned 3 puppies from her favourite dog. the club band together and clone these exceptional females and the puppies can create a whole new MV and obviously syringomyelia free lines. Ditto for the males who pass this milestone. they exist. I had Zambuna Cav King Jack and he lived to 17 MV free. he never sired a syringomyelia pup and his babies on average lived to 15 years. some of my original females were MV free, some developed it at 7 and 10. His pups tended to be free to 10 to 14 many never developed MV though their mums had. Sadly the males I used to his pups were a disaster hence I gave up. but dogs like Jack do exist both male and female and the breed could be saved this way. its not a pipe dream. it would work.

I know of a Greyhound breeder who breeds with older animals, males and females. She doesn't want to "improve" (= change) just preserve. And as she keeps some puppies, the longer time between generations makes sense. People used to breed early before the dogs died of distemper or something else. Some still keeping to that old adage.

one very effective way to ensure all breeds have shorter and shorter lives is the legislation the AJP failed to achieve so far. That all males be desexed at 7. Thus ensuring no males 8 and over can be used for breeding. the older the male the more sure you are he was not hiding poor genes that at present do not have a dna tests for and only surface as the dogs grow older. particularly mv and syringelia myelia (no idea how to spell it.) a male I had Zambuna Cav King jack lived to 17 and never developed either condition nor did his pups. such genetics are worth their weight in gold for the breed.

Wah Wah Wah

I found an Anatolian Shepherd that had crossed a six lane road and three suburbs. Very self contained dog, seemed long-sighted, not demonstrative at all. Took three of us to get him into the back of my wagon. His Turkish family was very happy to get him back. His name was Kubla.

The Turkish Kangal has a bite force of 743 PSI. The Kangal has the strongest bite in the world. I haven't heard of a Russian Ovcharka killing anyone in Australia. According to Dogz Online Breeders listings there are 4 breeders of Russian Ovcharkas (Caucasian Shepherd).

This would be a smart move... especially for the larger livestock guardian breeds, as they don't always do well in a suburban family/community environment. T.

The only declared dangerous dog I have seen in my suburb is a Labrador.

I can't see banning large guardian dogs. I might get behind requiring a license or some such to keep them in urban or suburban environments.

Think you could add too that , Rottweilers , german shepards , all mastiff type dogs , and while were at it never met a chiwawa that was'nt a nasty viscous little brute , remember when i was a kid , neighbor had a corgi that used to chase all us kids up the street biting our ankles , so throw them in has well

You would have to ban bully kuttas, gull dongs, kangals, alabais etc etc.

Humans are the most dangerous animal to other humans.

Dangerous ?? Please show the references to this breed being so dangerous . So you would want the breeds who do the same/similiar jobs to be banned too .

I am wondering why this breed is allowed in the country when they are so dangerous !!! Who’s the bright spark that thinks it’s ok ?probably the same one that let pitbulls in. I’m very concerned now there’s 4 breeders out there.

Shar Pei so we'll be looking at $7k to $10k for two and the breed has a number of known health issues most of which can't be tested for hence wanting to see the parents. Plus they're definitely a dominant breed and can be difficult.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-15/how-to-protect-your-pet-from-ticks/104599750

Japanese Spitz is listed in one of the links.

The Japanese Spitz are not known on any of those sources. Does that mean they live forever? I'm just messing. I believe their life expectancy to be between 12-14 years. Does anyone have some reputable sources saying otherwise?

Asal, they were at a training course at Lucas Heights which is where the nuclear reactor is, so not a public area? And workers there probably have to decontaminate after shift so not too many people outside? The surrounds with the houses used to have the same suburb name but is now called Barden Ridge.

All good advice Dogs, but OP hasn't visited since Nov 3.

This is what I would do in your situation… Join the Border Collie club of NSW and volunteer to help out at their events, Spend several months going to (and maybe volunteering at) Obedience trials, Agility trials and conformation shows. Look at the Border Collies there to see what you like and don’t like about the breed and individual dogs. Look at the event catalogues to find who bred the dogs you like. Talk to Border Collie owners at these events (if/when they are willing to talk with you) to find out their experiences with their dogs. Be polite and patient. Many people enjoy talking about their dogs but they will be at these events to compete, not to talk to you. Remember that their dogs were not born trained. Go to local dog training clubs and talk (politely and patiently) to owners there. This will give you an opportunity to meet dogs in training and pet owners with their border collies. When you’ve identified breeders whose dogs you like and who perform the required health testing, consider getting an adult dog. No one can adequately assess the suitability of a 8 week old puppy for a specialist role such as assistance dog work. Breeders sometimes need to rehome lovely adult dogs; they will have a much better idea whether these dogs are suitable for assistance dog training.

You are right.

There are also some so proactive they call the police even when the owners are in the car with the dogs and all windows down. Pity no one spotted them

If a dog is left in a car in a carpark there are usually some people who are willing to smash a window but also people who know how to break in.